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Lok Sabha Debates<\/div>\n
Moved The Motion For Presentation Of The Report Of Joint Committee On … on 4 December, 1998<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
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\nTitle: Moved the  motion for presentation of the Report of Joint Committee on Essential  Commodities (Amendment) Bill- Extension of time. Motion for Consideration-  adopted <\/p>\n
1214 hours <\/p>\n
SHRI SHYAM BIHARI MISHRA <\/a>(BILHAUR<\/a>): I beg to move : <\/p>\n
“That this House do extend upto the last day of the last week of the Winter  Session, l998 the time for presentation of the Report of the Joint Committee on  Essential Commodities (Amendment) Bill, l998.” <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER: The question is <\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
“That this House do extend upto the last day of the last week of the Winter  Session, l998 the time for presentation of the Report of the Joint Committee on  Essential Commodities (Amendment) Bill, l998.” <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: I think, the `Ayes’ have it.\n<\/p>\n
>SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>(BANKURA<\/a>): `Noes’ have it. We want  Division. Sir, we live with black marketeers and profiteers. (Interruptions)  When we ask for the Division, you should allow it. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: The Parliamentary Affairs Minister is on his leg.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: On what? (Interruptions) There is no question of  extension of time. <\/p>\n
>SHRI RAJESH PILOT <\/a>(DAUSA<\/a>): Let me submit to the hon. Minister.  Let me submit to the House that, that day when Sardar Surjit Singh Barnala  brought this amendment, there was a resentment from the entire House that this  amendment cannot carry forward. We had rejected that that day. I think the hon.  Minister of Parliamentary Affairs referred it to the Select Committee on his  own. We did not approve the reference to the Select Committee. We rejected the  amendment but now you are bringing it through the Select Committee again. \u0938\u0902\u0938\u0926\u0940\u092f \u0915\u093e\u0930\u094d\u092f \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0924\u0925\u093e \u092a\u0930\u094d\u092f\u091f\u0928  \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 (\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e): \u0938\u0932\u0947\u0915\u091f \u0915\u092e\u0947\u091f\u0940 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902, \u0938\u0902\u092f\u0941\u0915\u0924  \u0938\u092e\u0924\u093f \u0939\u0948\u0964 <\/p>\n
SHRI RAJESH PILOT <\/a>: I am sorry. I was there. Shri Indrajit Gupta was there.  We had rejected the amendment. So, this was referred to the Standing Committee  by you, not by the House. \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940 \u0928\u0947  \u092c\u0928\u093e\u0908 \u0939\u0948, \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u092c\u0928\u093e\u0908 \u0939\u0948\u0964 <\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: At the time of passing of the Bill, we all opposed  it.\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Let the Minister reply, please. Shri Basu Deb Acharia, please  take your seat. Let the Minister reply. <\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: They want to dilute the Bill. What is he going to  reply? … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Let the Minister reply.\n<\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>(MAVELIKARA<\/a>): We do not want the Minister to reply.  (Interruptions) The Government can say anything. We do not want reply from the  Minister. You please see the rule. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please understand they have asked for the extension of time  only. You please go through the List of Business. <\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: That is disputed here. Yes, for that Division is there.  … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please understand they have asked for the extension of time.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: They are diluting the Bill. \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940,  \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u0916\u0941\u0926 \u0932\u0948\u091f\u0930 \u0932\u093f\u0916\u093e \u0939\u0948 <\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: There was enough time. It is before the House. The  House may accept or reject it. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Basu Deb Acharia, please understand. This is for seeking  time for presentation of the Report. “That this House do extend up to the last  day of the last week of the Winter Session, 1998…”. \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940, \u092e\u0948\u0902  \u0906\u092a\u0915\u094b \u092c\u0924\u093e \u0926\u0942\u0902 \u0915\u093f \u092f\u0939 \u0915\u092e\u0947\u091f\u0940 \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u092c\u0928\u093e\u0908 \u0939\u0948, \u0906\u092a\u0928\u0947  \u092c\u0928\u093e\u0908 \u0939\u0948\u0964 <\/p>\n
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>SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER <\/a>(TENALI<\/a>):  Sir, when this Amendment Bill was brought, all of us opposed on this side. We  said at that time that we would not mind if it was sent to the Select Committee  but we are finding it difficult with all the amended provisions. What we are now  saying is that you should have withdrawn it. On the contrary, you are asking for  the extension. Instead of asking for the extension, you withdraw the amendment.  This is what they are saying. Please agree for that. You withdraw the whole  Bill. \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940 \u0915\u0947  \u0915\u092e\u0930\u0947 \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u092c\u0948\u0920 \u0915\u0930 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0915\u0930 \u0932\u0947\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964 \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u092a\u0939\u0932\u0947 \u0939\u0940 \u0915\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0948  \u0915\u093f \u0939\u092e \u0907\u0938\u0915\u0947 \u090f\u0915\u0938\u091f\u0947\u0902\u0936\u0928 \u0915\u0947 \u092a\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964 \u0939\u092e \u0907\u0938\u0940 \u0938\u0924\u094d\u0930  \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0932\u093e\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964 \u0906\u092a \u092c\u0948\u0920 \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0902\u0964 <\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, when the Amendment was brought, we all opposed  it…(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA<\/a>: Sir, my suggestion is, you call a meeting in your  Chamber. \u0926\u094b\u0928\u094b\u0902 \u092a\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u0938\u0941\u0928\u0915\u0930 \u0906\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u0905\u0917\u0930  \u0907\u0938\u0915\u094b \u0935\u093f\u0926\u095c\u0949 \u0915\u0930\u0928\u093e \u0939\u0948 \u0915\u092f\u094b\u0902\u0915\u093f \u092f\u0939 \u0915\u092e\u0947\u091f\u0940 \u0906\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u092c\u0928\u093e\u0908 \u0939\u0948,  \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u092c\u0928\u093e\u0908 \u0939\u0948\u0964 <\/p>\n
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This is within your powers, <\/p>\n
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SHRI RAJESH PILOT <\/a>: Yes, withdraw it…(Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: What is this? Please speak one by one.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, when the amendment was brought, we all opposed  it. What we wanted was that more stringent measures should be there in the Bill.  They wanted to dilute it. They wanted to reduce the quantum of  punishment…(Interruptions) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u0939\u092e \u092c\u093f\u0932\u094d\u0915\u0941\u0932  \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964 \u0939\u092e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902 \u0915\u093f \u0909\u0938\u0915\u094b \u0938\u094d\u091f\u093f\u094d\u0930\u0915\u091f \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e \u091c\u093e\u090f,  \u0907\u0938\u0932\u093f\u090f \u092d\u0947\u091c\u093e \u0925\u093e\u0964 <\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: We objected to that. The Joint Select Committee was  constituted in the month of July…(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: How can I hear you like this? Please try to understand. Please  speak one by one. Let us hear Shri P. Shiv Shanker. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: This Joint Select Committee did nothing for three  months. Now they are again coming forth for extension of time. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please, Shri Acharia. I have called Shri P. Shiv Shanker.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, what we want is that the amendment should be  withdrawn…(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please, I have called Shri P. Shiv Shanker.\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER <\/a>: Sir, the House may recall that the Amendment Bill was  an amendment to the 1981 measure which was brought and the Essential Commodities  Act was sought to be diluted by amendments. Therefore, all of us opposed it at  that time. When we opposed it, my friends came forth with the proposal and we  agreed that all right, it could be referred to the Select Committee. He is now  agreeing for the withdrawal. Though the Bill is the property of the House, my  submission is, if the policy decision is taken by the Government to withdraw  this Bill, then the entire House will agree. They can withdraw it and then the  question of seeking the extension does not arise. Therefore, let him say that he  withdraws it. He can then come forth with the proposal on Monday, it can be  withdrawn and then the extension itself goes. The matter ends there. Why should  he create a problem? <\/p>\n
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SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER <\/a>: You have brought this Bill. What has it got to do with  the Standing Committee? What are you talking about? …(Interruptions) \u092a\u094d\u0930\u094b. \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0947\u092e \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 \u091a\u0928\u094d\u0926\u0942\u092e\u093e\u091c\u0930\u093e  (\u092a\u091f\u093f\u092f\u093e\u0932\u093e) : \u092f\u0939 \u092c\u093f\u0932 \u092a\u093e\u0938 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0939\u094b \u0938\u0915\u0924\u093e\u0964 <\/p>\n
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SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA<\/a>: Sir, my suggestion is, you postpone it for Monday and  you call a meeting in the evening….(Interruptions) \u0907\u0938\u0915\u0940 \u091c\u0917\u0939 \u0915\u092f\u093e \u0932\u0947\u0902, \u092f\u0939 \u0924\u094b \u092c\u0924\u093e  \u0926\u0940\u091c\u093f\u090f\u0964 <\/p>\n
… (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9) <\/p>\n
SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER <\/a>: You cannot place the Speaker in an embarassing  situation…(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
>SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN  <\/a>(CHANDIGARH<\/a>): Sir, I am a member of this Committee. I shall try to bring two  things to the notice of the House and then let the House take a decision in any  manner it may like. <\/p>\n
Sir, it is a fact that this Committee has been constituted by the hon.  Speaker. It has 30 Members and Members are from different political parties.  Shri K.D. Sultanpuri is a Member. Shri Mohan Singh is also a Member. There is a  Member from the CPI(M) also. Sir, we have….(Interruptions). I am replying.  ….(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: No, we are not going into the merits.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0930\u0918\u0941\u0935\u0902\u0936 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0938\u093e\u0926 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 : \u091f\u094d\u0930\u0947\u0921\u0930\u094d\u0938  \u0938\u0958\u093f\u092f \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please take your seat.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: This will not go on record.\n<\/p>\n
(Interruptions)* <\/p>\n
SHRI SATYA PAL JAIN <\/a>: Sir, this Committee has already gone into everything. I  want to bring to the notice of the House that the hon. Speaker has already sent  in writing to the Committee that its term has been extended. Now if we decide  otherwise, that will be a reflection on the Speaker also. Kindly do not do that.  The Speaker has already allowed the extension. ….(Interruptions) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0930\u0918\u0941\u0935\u0902\u0936 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0938\u093e\u0926 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 : \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f,  \u0939\u094b\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930\u094d\u0938 \u0915\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0926 \u0939\u094b \u0930\u0939\u0940 \u0939\u0948\u0964 <\/p>\n
SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER <\/a>: The Speaker has only reflected the will of the House  in referring it to the Select Committee. ….(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: Sir, I am on a point of order. In rule 367, the procedure  regarding division is mentioned. ….(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Raghuvansh Prasad Singh, please take your seat.\n<\/p>\n
_____________________________________________________________________________  * Not recorded <\/p>\n
>PROF. P.J.  KURIEN : Sir, I shall read Rule number 367. Second part of the rule is regarding  division. I will read the whole rule. It says : <\/p>\n
“(1) On the conclusion of a debate, the Speaker shall put the question and  invite those who are in favour of the motion to say `Aye’ and those against the  motion to say `No’. <\/p>\n
(2) The speaker shall then say<\/a>: `I think the Ayes (or the Noes, as the case  may be) have it’. If the opinion of the Speaker as to the decision of a question  is not challenged, he shall say twice: `The ayes (or the Noes, as the case may  be) have it’ and the question before the House shall be determined  accordingly.” <\/p>\n
Sir, the next part of the rule is more important. This is the relevant  part.\n<\/p>\n
“(3)(a) If the opinion of the Speaker as to the decision of a question is  challenged, he shall order that the Lobby be cleared.” <\/p>\n
Sir, there is no escape route here because the motion is already moved and  teh opinion of the Speaker challenged not by one Member but by many Members.  According to the rules, there is no escape route other than putting the question  for the vote of the House by division, if this rule has any sanctity. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Prof. Kurien, please understand.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI RAJESH PILOT <\/a>: Sir, let me submit honestly. ….(Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA<\/a>: It was passed in your times. ….(Interruptions) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0930\u0918\u0941\u0935\u0902\u0936 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0938\u093e\u0926 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 : \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937  \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f, \u0939\u092e\u0947\u0902 \u092d\u0940 \u092c\u094b\u0932\u0928\u0947 \u0915\u093e \u092e\u094c\u0915\u093e \u0926\u093f\u092f\u093e \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0964 <\/p>\n
….(Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri P.C. Chacko please.\n<\/p>\n
>SHRI P.C. CHACKO <\/a>: Sir, at  this point of time, no discussion about the merit of the Bill or otherwise is  relevant. The motion is put for the vote of the House and the only alternative  is to take a division and decide the matter as per the result of division. No  other discussion is relevant at this point of time. ….(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
SHRI RAJESH PILOT <\/a>: Sir, let me submit very honestly to the House. Looking at  the mood of the House, I would request the hon. Minister to pay attention to my  plea. The day discussion took place, we all and also their Members were against  the amendment of 1951 Act amended in 1981. Everyone had the feeling that the Act  was being diluted. Shri Indrajit Gupta and myself were sitting. Shri Shiv  Shanker was also sitting there. They both got up and he assured them. When Shri  Barnala asked me, I said that I felt that the Act was being diluted. He kept  quite. After that, the decision had been taken to refer it to the Select  Committee. In the debate yesterday, many Members have pointed out and I have  pointed out clause by clause as to how they are trying to dilute the amending  Bill. Why do they not withdraw this Bill if they have no intention to dilute it?  But they want to dilute it and go ahead. ….(Interruptions) Now, the motion is  before the House. ….(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri K. Yerrannaidu.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU <\/a>(SRIKAKULAM<\/a>): Mr. Speaker, Sir ….(Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI AJIT JOGI <\/a>(RAIGARH<\/a>): Sir, we cannot discuss the merit of the Bill. The  motion is before the House. It should be put to the vote. …(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Let me hear what he is saying. Shri Yerrannaidu.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI PRITHVIRAJ D. CHAVAN <\/a>(KARAD<\/a>): Sir, rules are absolutely clear.  ….(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU <\/a>: Sir, the House is not in order. Prof. Kurien is a very  senior Member. … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: I have allowed Shri Yerrannaidu.\n<\/p>\n
>SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU <\/a>: Sir, I want to say something. Mr. Speaker,  Sir, we are discussing the issue of price rise in this House very seriously. …  (Interruptions) I want to convey my Party’s feelings. … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
SHRI AJIT JOGI <\/a>: He was on a point of order. Let it be cleared.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI K. YERRANNAIDU <\/a>: Sir, there is a consensus because every party is in  favour of withdrawal of this Act or this Amendment Bill. There is no necessity  for this extension and they should withdraw it. You should call the Food and  Civil Supplies Minister, who is the competent authority, to announce this. Then,  we will discuss it later on. … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Prof. Kurien, you have raised a point of order, but we are not  discussing about the procedure in regard to division under Rule 367. <\/p>\n
>PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: Whatever it may be, the question is before  the House. This Rule Book has some value. The question has been put before the  House. Sir, you, in your wisdom, … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: You are a senior Member, please listen to me.\n<\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: Sir, you may also sit here. Rules are sacrosanct. Within  the rules, you have put the question before the House. What I am saying is that  you should go by the rules or you say that the rules are came be violated. I  cannot agree with this. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please understand that we are not discussing about the procedure  under Rule 367 now. <\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: The question has been put before the House.\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: It is for extension of time.\n<\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: We do not agree with it. We are asking for a division. We  are for that. Khuranaji, the merit of the question does not arise here. The  question has been put before the House. <\/p>\n
SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA<\/a>: This is not our Motion; this is your Motion.\n<\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: The merit of the question does not arise at all. The  question has been put before the House. The House has to decide it. The merit of  the question does not arise here. The question has been put before the House and  the House has to decide it. The rules, with all respect to you, Sir, … <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please understand, Prof. Kurien, that we are not discussing  about the procedure. It is for extension of time of the Joint Committee. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940, \u092e\u0948\u0902  \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0938\u094d\u092a\u0937\u094d\u091f \u0915\u0930 \u0926\u0942\u0902\u0964\n<\/p>\n
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… (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0930\u0918\u0941\u0935\u0902\u0936 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0938\u093e\u0926 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939: \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940,  \u0939\u094b\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930\u094d\u0938 \u0915\u0940 \u0938\u092a\u094b\u0930\u094d\u091f \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0938\u092c \u0915\u093e\u092e \u0939\u094b \u0930\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964 \u0939\u092e\u0947\u0902 \u092a\u0942\u0930\u093e \u0938\u0902\u0926\u0947\u0939  \u0939\u0948 \u0915\u093f \u0939\u094b\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930\u094d\u0938 \u0915\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0926 \u092f\u0939\u093e\u0902 \u0939\u094b \u0930\u0939\u0940 \u0939\u0948\u0964 <\/p>\n
… (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0935\u093f\u091c\u092f \u0917\u094b\u092f\u0932 : \u0906\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u0924\u094b  \u0938\u093e\u0907\u0928 \u0915\u0930 \u0930\u0916\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964\n<\/p>\n
… (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0930\u0918\u0941\u0935\u0902\u0936 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0938\u093e\u0926 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 : \u0906\u092a  \u0939\u094b\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930\u094d\u0938 \u0915\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0926 \u0915\u0930 \u0930\u0939\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964\n<\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: Why do you not want to go by the rules? Sir, you should  go by the rules. How is it that you do not want to go by the rules? I am only  pointing out the rules. Please give your ruling. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please understand that we are not discussing about the procedure  in regard to division. Please understand that it is for extension of time. <\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: Whatever it may be, the question has been put before the  House. The Houses has to decide it. If somebody is challenging, the division has  to be there. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Prof. Kurien, please understand.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, I have a very valid point. Please allow me to  speak.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR <\/a>(MUMBAI NORTH-WEST<\/a>): Sir, you should allow me to  speak. One Member has spoken thrice. …  (Interruptions)SHRI  P. SHIV SHANKER : Having regard to the fact that tempers are raised, the best  course for the Government will be to say that they withdraw the Bill. Otherwise,  there will be a division and in the division, they have to face the music. If  they do not want to withdraw the Bill, let there be a division.  <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Shiv Shanker, we are not discussing about the procedure on  division now. We are only on the point of extension of time of the Joint  Committee. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER <\/a>: We are against the extension and that is the point. We  are against the extension and, that is why, we are asking for a division. …  (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR <\/a>: Sir, please allow us also to speak.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI PURNO A. SANGMA <\/a>: I would take only two minutes. I do not take much  time.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR <\/a>: We should also be heard … (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
>SHRI PURNO A. SANGMA <\/a>: Sir, the question before the House is  whether time for presentation of the Report of the Joint Committee for Essential  Commodities Amendment Bill should be extended or not. A motion has been moved  that time should be extended. What is left now is a decision that has to be  taken by the House as to whether the time should be extended or not. How would  the decision of the House be taken? <\/p>\n
Sir, as far as the decision of the House is concerned, it is governed by  rules 364, 365, 366 and 367 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in  the Lok Sabha. The rule is very clear as to how the decision of the House would  have to be taken. Now that a motion has been put for the decision of the House,  only rule 367, which has already been read by Prof. Kurien, remains  operative. <\/p>\n
I think, the hon. Speaker now has to decide whether the decision of the House  would be taken by a voice vote or not. Since it has been challenged, it has to  be decided whether it should be done by a voice vote or by a division. That is  the only question. We do not have to decide about the merits and demerits of the  Bill. It is a question of procedure and the procedure is very clear that the  decision of the House has to be taken in accordance with rules 364, 365, 366 and  367. Now, of all these rules, rule 367 is the operative part. I agree with Prof.  Kurien that a division has to be there on this. <\/p>\n
>SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR <\/a>: Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a matter  of extending the period by a motion. <\/p>\n
SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM <\/a>(SIVAGANGA<\/a>): The motion either has to be passed or  defeated.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR <\/a>: Whatever has been said by Shri Sangma is correct. I  do not deny it … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
SHRI K. KARUNAKARAN <\/a>(THIRUVANANTHAPURAM<\/a>): The issue is very specific. The  motion has already been put before the House … (Interruptions) Now, you take  the vote of the House … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR <\/a>: Sir, now the matter has a very restricted and a  limited scope. But by taking advantage of this particular opportunity,  unnecessary aspersions have been cast. I can understand the technical point and  the legal aspect of the issue. But why should one make some allegations that  some section of the people are in favour of the traders? This thing should not  happen. It is a highly technical matter … (Interruptions) If you shout like  this, I can also shout … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Sirpotdar, please.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MADHUKAR SIRPOTDAR <\/a>: Sir, my contention is that procedure that has been  laid down under rule 367 is absolutely correct. My humble request to the House  is that only extension of the time for submission of the Report has been sought  for and it should be allowed … (Interruptions) If the Bill is to be defeated,  the entire House is welcome to do it … (Interruptions) The decision of the  House on the motion has already been taken through a voice vote and let the  business of the House now continue. Could we come back to a subject on which a  decision has already been given? … (Interruptions) That is my submission…  (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
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SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS<\/a>: Sir, we want division.\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: I called Shri Jaipal Reddy.\n<\/p>\n
>SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY  <\/a>(MAHABUBNAGAR<\/a>): Sir, in today’s Revised List of Business, there are no Motions  up to Item 12, and from Item 13 onwards there are Motions. The Minister had the  option of not tabling the Motion. But, he has already moved the Motion.  Therefore, there is nothing else for the House to do except to vote. No further  discussion is necessary. Please go in for voting. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Madan Lal  Khurana. \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940,  \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u0906\u092a\u0938\u0947 \u092a\u0939\u0932\u0947 \u0915\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0948 <\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, there is no need for further discussion. Please  take the vote of the House. …(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please take your seat.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: The Minister is on his legs. Please take your seats.\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, why are you allowing a debate?  …(Interruptions) We have heard enough on this. …(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please take your seat.\n<\/p>\n
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MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Nothing will go on record except what Shri Khurana says.\n<\/p>\n
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MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: What is this? You are all senior Members. Is this the way to  behave in the House? <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI K. KARUNAKARAN <\/a>: Sir, is this the way the House should function? Now, it  is for the Speaker to decide on the issue. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI P. SHIV SHANKER<\/a>: He should decide. Does he want to withdraw the motion?  Does he agree for withdrawal of the motion or not? If he does not want to agree  for withdrawal, we are against this motion and we want division. This is the  simple point..(Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Hon. Members, please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please hear me first.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, there are two alternatives. Either the Bill has  to be witdrawn… (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Basu Deb Acharia, please take your seat.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, when the motion is before the House, there is no  question of any debate on it. Now, you have to take the vote of the House. You  allow division now… (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Basu Deb Acharia, please take your seat. \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0926\u0928 \u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0916\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u093e: \u092f\u0939  \u0921\u093e\u0907\u0932\u094d\u092f\u0942\u091f\u0947\u0921 \u0939\u0948, \u092e\u0917\u0930 \u0921\u093e\u0907\u0932\u094d\u092f\u0942\u091f \u0939\u092e\u0928\u0947 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e\u0964 \u092f\u0939 \u0906\u092a  \u0932\u094b\u0917\u094b\u0902 \u0928\u0947 \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964 \u0939\u092e \u0907\u0938\u0915\u094b \u0920\u0940\u0915 \u0915\u0930\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964 <\/p>\n
… (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092c\u0938\u0941\u0926\u0947\u0935 \u0906\u091a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u092f : \u0915\u092f\u093e \u0915\u0930\u0928\u093e  \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902?\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Hon. Members, please understand.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0935\u093f\u091c\u092f \u0917\u094b\u092f\u0932 : \u091c\u0949\u0907\u0902\u091f \u0938\u0947\u0932\u0947\u0915\u091f  \u0915\u092e\u0947\u091f\u0940 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0915\u093e\u0902\u0917\u094d\u0930\u0947\u0938 \u0915\u0947 \u092e\u0947\u092e\u094d\u092c\u0930 \u092d\u0940 \u0925\u0947\u0964 \u0935\u0939\u093e\u0902 \u092f\u0942\u0928\u0948\u0928\u093f\u092e\u0938\u0932\u0940 \u0928\u093f\u0930\u094d\u0923\u092f  \u0939\u0941\u0906 \u0925\u093e\u0964 <\/p>\n
… (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Please take your seats.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VIJAY GOEL <\/a>: It was the unanimous decision they had taken. …  (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Hon. Members, please take your seats.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: We are not discussing anything now. Please take your seats.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions) \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0905\u091c\u0940\u0924 \u091c\u094b\u0917\u0940 : \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f,  \u0907\u0938\u0940 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0936\u094d\u0928 \u092a\u0930 \u0906\u092a\u0915\u094b \u0921\u0935\u093f\u091c\u0928 \u0915\u0930\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u093f\u090f\u0964 …  (\u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928) <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: We are not discussing about the procedure under Rule 367 with  regard to division. I have understood the feelings of the hon. Members. I am  appealing to all the hon. Members that before I give my ruling, I think, it will  be proper to discuss it with the leaders of all the parties in my Chamber. Then  I will give my ruling. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SOME HON. MEMBERS<\/a>: No, Sir… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>: It is violation of Rule 367… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: We are not discussing about the division now.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI AJAY CHAKRABORTY <\/a>(BASIRHAT<\/a>): We want division now.\n<\/p>\n
1248 hours <\/p>\n
(At this stage, Prof. P.J. Kurien, Shri Basu Deb Acharia and some <\/p>\n
other hon. Members came and stood on the floor near the Table.) <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 1.30 p.m. <\/p>\n
1249 hours <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha then adjourned till thirty minutes <\/p>\n
past Thirteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
—-\n<\/p>\n
13.34 hours <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha re-assembled at thirty-four minutes <\/p>\n
past Thirteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
(Shri K. Yerrannaidu in the Chair) <\/p>\n
MOTION RE<\/a>: REPORT OF JOINT COMMITTEE ON ESSENTIAL <\/p>\n
(COMMODITIES (AMENDMENT) BILL- EXTENSION OF TIME – Contd <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: We will take up the next item on the agenda.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: We cannot go to the next issue unless this item is  disposed of.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA <\/a>(GUWAHATI<\/a>): Sir, we have to dispose of the Motion.  (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: The Motion is before the House. It has to be disposed  of. (Interruptions) I am on a point of order. (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Hon. Members, please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN <\/a>: All of you may sit down first.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA <\/a>: Sir, you may give us the ruling. What is your  ruling? Please give us your ruling. … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down first. I am going to tell you something. Please  sit down first. You are not giving scope for the Chair to speak. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down. I will tell you. Please sit down. What is the  necessity for it now? <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA <\/a>: Sir, you may dispose of this issue first and then  go to the next item. … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Nothing will go on record.\n<\/p>\n
(Interruptions)* <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: I want to tell you something. You can ask anything later on.  Please sit down first. Shri Radhakrishnan, please sit down. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI ANIL BASU <\/a>(ARAMBAGH<\/a>): Sir, as the motion is before the House, I, as a  Member of this House, have a right to ask for voting on this issue. Sir, I  demand a division on this issue. … (Interruptions) <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down. On this issue only, the House has adjourned.  Please sit down. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Nothing will go on record. Please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
(Interruptions) * <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Shri Basu Deb Acharya, please sit down. Shri Raghuvansh Prasad  Singh, please sit down. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: I will give you a chance later. Just wait for a minute. I want  to tell you something. Why are you doing this unnecessarily? There is no subject  before the House. Why are you raising it unnecessarily? <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down. I will give you a chance later on. You will  speak on what item? The House has adjourned on this issue only. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
______________________________________________________________________ <\/p>\n
* Not recorded <\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down. Please wait for a minute. On this issue the  House has adjourned. The hon. Speaker is discussing this issue with the floor  leaders. Hence, we will go to the next item. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SOME HON. MEMBERS<\/a>: No. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI PRITHVIRAJ D. CHAVAN <\/a>(KARAD<\/a>): Sir, you cannot do like this. The Rules  cannot be taken for granted. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, I am on a point of order. …  (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Hon. Speaker is discussing this issue with all the party  leaders. So, the House is adjourned till 2.15 p.m. <\/p>\n
1338 hours <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Fifteen minutes <\/p>\n
past Fourteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
—–\n<\/p>\n
14.15 hours <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha re-assembled at fifteen minutes <\/p>\n
past Fourteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
(Shri K. Yerrannaidu in the Chair) <\/p>\n
MOTION RE<\/a>: REPORT OF JOINT COMMITTEE ON ESSENTIAL <\/p>\n
COMMODITIES (AMENDMENT) BILL EXTENSION OF TIME <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN <\/a>: Please sit down. Let me speak.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: The issue would be resolved shortly. That is why the House is  adjourned till 2.45 p.m. <\/p>\n
14.19 hours <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha then adjourned till forty-five minutes <\/p>\n
past Fourteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
—–\n<\/p>\n
14.47 hrs. <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha re-assembled at forty seven minutes <\/p>\n
past Fourteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
(Mr. Speaker in the Chair) <\/p>\n
MOTION RE<\/a>: REPORT OF JOINT COMMITTEE ON ESSENTIAL <\/p>\n
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“The Essential Commodities Act would be immediately reviewed with a view to  examine as to how the State Governments, Union Territory administrations can be  empowered for effective action against those who hoard and cause artificial  storage shortage and engage in trade malpractices, not only in respect of  foodgrains but also in items of mass consumption, like vegetable, edible oil,  etc. A Group of officials, under the Cabinet Secretary, would be constituted to  make suitable recommendations both on the amendment of the Act and the steps  that should be taken to improve the enforcement mechanism. Representatives of  some of the States would also be included in this Group”. \u092f\u0939 \u092b\u0948\u0938\u0932\u093e \u0932\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0917\u092f\u093e \u0925\u093e\u0964 \u0907\u0938\u0915\u0947  \u0905\u0924\u0930\u093f\u0915\u0924 \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u0915\u0939\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0942\u0902 \u0915\u093f \u0939\u092e \u091c\u094b \u092c\u093f\u0932 \u0932\u093e\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902,  \u0907\u0938\u0940 \u0939\u093e\u0909\u0938 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0932\u093e\u090f\u0902\u0917\u0947, \u0909\u0938\u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0938\u094d\u091f\u093f\u094d\u0930\u0902\u091c\u0947\u0902\u091f \u092e\u0948\u091c\u0930\u094d\u0938 \u0907\u0938\u094d\u0924\u0947\u092e\u093e\u0932  \u0915\u0930\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947\u0964 \u092f\u0939 \u0938\u093e\u0930\u0947 \u0939\u093e\u0909\u0938 \u0915\u0940 \u0930\u093e\u092f \u0939\u0948 \u0915\u093f \u091c\u0948\u0938\u0947 \u0939\u093e\u0932\u093e\u0924 \u0926\u0947\u0936 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u091a\u0932  \u0930\u0939\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902, \u0909\u0938\u0915\u0947 \u0932\u093f\u090f \u0938\u094d\u091f\u093f\u094d\u0930\u0902\u091c\u0947\u0902\u091f \u092e\u0948\u091c\u0930\u094d\u0938 \u0939\u094b\u0928\u0947 \u091a\u093e\u0939\u093f\u090f\u0964 \u0939\u092e\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u092d\u0940 \u0930\u093e\u092f  \u092f\u0939\u0940 \u0939\u0948 \u0915\u093f \u092a\u094d\u0930\u093e\u0907\u092e \u092e\u0928\u093f\u0938\u094d\u091f\u0930 \u0938\u093e\u0939\u092c \u0928\u0947 \u0915\u0908 \u0926\u093f\u0928 \u0939\u0941\u090f, \u092f\u0939  \u092b\u0948\u0938\u0932\u093e \u0915\u0930 \u0926\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0925\u093e, \u0907\u0938\u0932\u093f\u090f \u091c\u094b \u092d\u0940 \u092c\u093f\u0932 \u0932\u093e \u0930\u0939\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902, \u0935\u0939  \u0938\u094d\u091f\u093f\u094d\u0930\u0902\u091c\u0947\u0902\u091f \u092e\u0948\u091c\u0930\u094d\u0938 \u092a\u0930 \u0932\u093e \u0930\u0939\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902 \u0924\u093e\u0915\u093f \u0915\u094b\u0908 \u092c\u094d\u0932\u0948\u0915 \u092e\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0915\u0947\u091f\u093f\u092f\u0930,  \u0915\u094b\u0908 \u0939\u094b\u0930\u094d\u0921\u0930 \u091b\u0942\u091f \u0928 \u0938\u0915\u0947\u0964 \u0915\u094b\u0908 \u092d\u0940 \u092f\u0939 \u0915\u093e\u092e \u0915\u0930\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0948 \u0924\u094b  \u0909\u0938\u0947 \u0938\u0916\u094d\u0924 \u0938\u0947 \u0938\u0916\u094d\u0924 \u0938\u091c\u093e \u0926\u0940 \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0964 \u0939\u092e \u0915\u094b\u0936\u093f\u0936 \u0915\u0930\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947 \u0915\u093f \u0907\u0938\u0940 \u0938\u0924\u094d\u0930  \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u092f\u0939 \u0906 \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0964 <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Hon. Members, in view of what the hon. Minister has said, I  would expect the House to give time to the Joint Committee till Wednesday, the  9th December 1998 to submit its Report. I hope that the House agrees to adopt  the Motion subject to this modification. <\/p>\n
Now, I would like to know whether the hon. Member Prof. P.J. Kurien still  presses his point of order. <\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
PROF. P.J. KURIEN <\/a>(MAVELIKARA<\/a>): Sir, in view of the assurance given by the  hon. Minister that a Bill with stringent measures is being introduced in the  House, and also in deference to the ruling given by the hon. Speaker, I do not  press my point of order. <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: So, I put the modified motion.\n<\/p>\n
The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
“That this House do extend upto Wednesday, the 9th December, 1998, the time  for presentation of the Report of the Joint Committee on the Essential  Commodities (Amendment) Bill, 1998.” <\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
—\n<\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Now, the House shall take up Item No.16 <\/p>\n
14.52 hrs. <\/p>\n
MOTION RE<\/a>: SIXTH REPORT OF THE BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE <\/p>\n
THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF TOURISM (SHRI MADAN LAL  KHURANA): Sir, I beg to move: <\/p>\n
“That this House do agree with the Sixth Report of the Business Advisory  Committee presented to the House on the 3rd December, 1998.” <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER: The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
“That this House do agree with the Sixth Report of the Business Advisory  Committee presented to the House on the 3rd December, 1998.” <\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
—–\n<\/p>\n
SPECIAL MENTIONS <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri P. Shiv Shanker to speak now. \u092a\u094d\u0930\u094b. \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0947\u092e \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 \u091a\u0928\u094d\u0926\u0942\u092e\u093e\u091c\u0930\u093e  (\u092a\u091f\u093f\u092f\u093e\u0932\u093e) : \u0938\u094d\u092a\u0940\u0915\u0930 \u0938\u093e\u0939\u092c, \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u090f\u0915 \u0905\u0924\u093f\u092e\u0939\u0924\u094d\u0935\u092a\u0942\u0930\u094d\u0923 \u0935\u093f\u0937\u092f \u0915\u0940 \u0913\u0930  \u0906\u092a\u0915\u093e \u0927\u094d\u092f\u093e\u0928 \u0926\u093f\u0932\u093e\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0942\u0902\u0964 \u0926\u0947\u0939\u0930\u093e\u0926\u0942\u0928 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u090f\u0915 \u0917\u0941\u0930\u0942\u0926\u094d\u0935\u093e\u0930\u093e  \u0939\u0948\u0964 <\/p>\n
MR. SPEAKER<\/a>: I have called Shri P. Shiv Shanker to speak.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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