{"id":147865,"date":"2009-09-09T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-09-08T18:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.legalindia.com\/judgments\/ms-meenakshi-vs-dept-of-personnel-training-on-9-september-2009"},"modified":"2018-09-07T04:58:53","modified_gmt":"2018-09-06T23:28:53","slug":"ms-meenakshi-vs-dept-of-personnel-training-on-9-september-2009","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.legalindia.com\/judgments\/ms-meenakshi-vs-dept-of-personnel-training-on-9-september-2009","title":{"rendered":"Ms. Meenakshi vs Dep\u2019T. Of Personnel &amp; Training on 9 September, 2009"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"docsource_main\">Central Information Commission<\/div>\n<div class=\"doc_title\">Ms. Meenakshi vs Dep\u2019T. Of Personnel &amp; Training on 9 September, 2009<\/div>\n<pre>                         CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION\n                           Appeal No.CIC\/WB\/A\/2008\/00688 dated 2.4.2008\n                             Right to Information Act 2005 - Section 19\n\n\nAppellant        -          Ms. Meenakshi\nRespondent           -      Dep't. of Personnel &amp; Training\n                                   Decision announced: 9.9.2009\n\n\nFacts<\/pre>\n<p>:\n<\/p>\n<p>         By an application of 23.1.08 Ms. Meenakshi of Gwalior (MP) applied to the<br \/>\nSecretary, DOPT seeking the following information with regard to &#8220;Appendix-1,<br \/>\nScheduled to G.I. Dep&#8217;t. of Personnel &amp; Training O.M. No. 36012\/22\/93-Estt<br \/>\n(EST) dated 8.9.93:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>         &#8216;1.   The Ranks of DIG, Addl. DIG and Commandant in Para<br \/>\n               Military Forces are equivalent to which rank of Army for the<br \/>\n               purpose of this notification?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>         2.    What is the basis of deciding equivalence of Para Military<br \/>\n               Officers and Army Officers for this purpose? Is it Pay or<br \/>\n               something else?\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>         3.    Whether, a Promotee Officer in Para Military Forces who<br \/>\n               has become Class I Officer after attaining the age of 40 is<br \/>\n               considered at par with Army Officer as there is no concept of<br \/>\n               Promotee Commissioned Officer in Army.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>         To this Ms. Meenakshi received a response from CPIO Shri A. K.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Cashyap, US DOPT dated 3.1.08 refusing the information, as follows:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>         &#8220;The Right to Information Act does not require the CPIO to create<br \/>\n         any information or to define or interpret any information. He is only<br \/>\n         required to furnish information which already exists. In your case,<br \/>\n         you have not asked for any information but simply asked for a<br \/>\n         clarification, which is out of the purview of the RTI Act.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>         Not satisfied Ms. Meenakshi moved an appeal before Shri K. G. Verma,<br \/>\nDirector \/ Appellate Authority in which she has specifically stated &#8220;That the<br \/>\ncircular has used the term of equivalent posts in the Paramilitary Forces but it<br \/>\nhas not been stated in the Circular as to which post of Paramilitary Forces is<br \/>\nequivalent to the post of Colonel in Army.             Since it is not mentioned in this<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                                1<\/span><br \/>\n circular, it must be available somewhere else with the Department and my<br \/>\napplication under Right to Information Act is pertaining to that list only.&#8217; Upon this<br \/>\nShri K. G. Verma, Director, DOPT in a reasoned order of 29.2.08 has come to<br \/>\nthe following conclusion:\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       &#8220;As far as Department of Personnel &amp; Training is concerned, the<br \/>\n       information is not available. However, such information may be<br \/>\n       available with the Ministry of Home Affairs in as much as that<br \/>\n       Ministry is concerned with the matters relating to Para Military<br \/>\n       Forces. A copy of the application of the appellant is, therefore,<br \/>\n       forwarded to that Ministry under section 6 (3) of the RTI Act, 2005.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       That Ministry may furnish the information to the appellant. The<br \/>\n       appellant is advised to make further correspondence with that<br \/>\n       Ministry.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>       Subsequently, in a latter of 18.3.08 Shri Barun Kumar Sahu, Director<br \/>\n(Pers), MHA has issued the following order:\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       &#8220;The application was examined. The application concerns Central<br \/>\n       Para Military Force, which are listed in schedule II of RTI Act. The<br \/>\n       information sought foes not concern of human rights violation or<br \/>\n       corruption.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       Ms. Meenakshi has then moved her second appeal before us with the<br \/>\nfollowing prayer:\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       &#8216;1.    The Department of Personnel may please be directed to<br \/>\n              provide the requisite information at the earliest as possible<br \/>\n              as the children of the officers of Para Military are facing<br \/>\n              problem in getting OBC Certificate from the competent<br \/>\n              authority because of ambiguity in the circular.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       2.     That, Shri Barun Kumar Sahu, Director (Personnel), 1st<br \/>\n              Appellate Authority in the Ministry of Home Affairs and Shri<br \/>\n              K. G. Verma, Director, 1st appellate authority in the<br \/>\n              Department of Personnel and Training be punished for<br \/>\n              denying information on flimsy grounds.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>       The appeal was heard on 9.9.09. The following are present:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       Respondents<br \/>\n            Shri G. S. Pundir, US, DOPT<br \/>\n            Shri Sunil Kumar Adlakha, Section Officer<br \/>\n            Shri Barun Kumar Sahu, Director (Pers), MHA<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                          2<\/span><br \/>\n            Although arrangement had been made for videoconference with Gwalior,<br \/>\nappellant Ms. Meenakshi has opted not to be present. In clarification of his order<br \/>\nof 18.3.08 Shri Barun Kumar Sahu Director (Pers0 MHA submitted that the MHA<br \/>\nhas no such list. Since the notification in question was with regard to reservation,<br \/>\nhe was of the view that the Ministry of Social Justice &amp; Empowerment might hold<br \/>\nthe information but he was uncertain. The other alternative was to refer the<br \/>\nmatter to Para Military Forces which he was not able to do because these<br \/>\ncovered u\/s 24(1). It was for this reason that he has provided the answer of<br \/>\n18.3.08 to appellant Ms. Meenakshi worded in the way that he has.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>           It was clarified by CPIO Shri G. S. Pundir, US, DOPT that DOPT itself has<br \/>\nno such list.\n<\/p>\n<p>                                    DECISION NOTICE<\/p>\n<p>           Under sec. 2(j) of the RTI Act, &#8220;right to information means the right to<br \/>\ninformation accessible under this Act, which is held by or under the control of any<br \/>\npublic authority 1 &#8220;. In this case, the information sought by appellant is indeed not<br \/>\nheld by either DOPT or MHA, as per their own admission. Nevertheless, the<br \/>\ninitial response from the DOPT by CPIO Shri Kashyap was flawed because when<br \/>\nthe notification in question made reference to equivalent posts, it is to be<br \/>\nassumed that that reference has some substantive meaning, thereby implying<br \/>\nthat such an equivalence must stand established within Government, which is the<br \/>\nplea taken by Ms. Meenakshi in her first appeal before Shri K. G. Verma,<br \/>\nDirector.        However, because the information sought is not held by this<br \/>\nDepartment and they are uncertain of whether it is even held by the third Ministry<br \/>\nmentioned, although both were of the view that that Ministry should hold such<br \/>\ninformation, the responses provided to Ms. Meenakshi both by the DOPT at the<br \/>\nappellate level and the MHA are within the letter of the RTI Act and, therefore,<br \/>\nupheld.\n<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">1<\/span><\/p>\n<p>    Underlined by us for emphasis<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                           3<\/span><br \/>\n        However,    the    processing   of       Ms.   Meenakshi&#8217;s   application   also<br \/>\ndemonstrates a flaw in the information held by Government, in this case the<br \/>\nDOPT, since the DOPT has issued the impugned notification of 8.9.93. It was<br \/>\nassumed that the DOPT itself or some related organization, of which DoPT would<br \/>\nbe expected to have knowledge, would hold the information defining equivalent<br \/>\nposts. Therefore, DoPT id directed u\/s 19(8) (a) (i) that such equivalence be so<br \/>\ndefined as to make it accessible to a citizen either through the DOPT itself or any<br \/>\nother Ministry\/Department so concerned. The appeal is thus allowed in part.<br \/>\nThere will be no costs.\n<\/p>\n<p>       Announced in the hearing. Notice of this decision be given free of cost to<br \/>\nthe parties.\n<\/p>\n<p>(Wajahat Habibullah)<br \/>\nChief Information Commissioner<br \/>\n9.9.2009<\/p>\n<p>Authenticated true copy. Additional copies of orders shall be supplied against<br \/>\napplication and payment of the charges, prescribed under the Act, to the CPIO<br \/>\nof this Commission.\n<\/p>\n<p>(Pankaj Shreyaskar)<br \/>\nJoint Registrar<br \/>\n9.9.2009<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                            4<\/span>\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Central Information Commission Ms. Meenakshi vs Dep\u2019T. Of Personnel &amp; Training on 9 September, 2009 CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION Appeal No.CIC\/WB\/A\/2008\/00688 dated 2.4.2008 Right to Information Act 2005 &#8211; Section 19 Appellant &#8211; Ms. Meenakshi Respondent &#8211; Dep&#8217;t. of Personnel &amp; Training Decision announced: 9.9.2009 Facts : By an application of 23.1.08 Ms. Meenakshi of Gwalior [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[39,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-147865","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-central-information-commission","category-judgements"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ms. Meenakshi vs Dep\u2019T. 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