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Lok Sabha Debates<\/div>\n
Made A Statement Regarding The Extra Departmental Agents Of The … on 17 December, 1998<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
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\nTitle: Made a  statement regarding the Extra Departmental Agents of the Department of  Posts. <\/p>\n
THE MINISTR OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI JAGMOHAN): Sir, the Postal service in the  rural areas is provided through the Extra Departmental System which comprises  1,27,162 Extra Departmental Post Offices. The Extra Departmental Agents which  number 3,09,825 are employed for a period of two to five hours and are  remunerated broadly on pro rata basis with reference to the work load and the  pay scales of corresponding categories of whole-time departmental employees.  Their terms and conditions of service is governed by separate rules, namely,  P&T EDA (Conduct & Service) Rules, 1964 framed in this behalf by the  Director-General, Posts.\n<\/p>\n
Keeping in view the growth of postal services and the agency functions as  also increasing cost of living and other factors, the Government have in the  past set up three committees for Extra Departmental Agents for reviewing the  benefits for the ED Agents including the rate of allowances and as a consequence  a variety of benefits have flowed over the years to the ED Agents. These  committees were set up in the context of the Central Pay Commissions which were  appointed by the Central Government for reviewing scales of pay and other  conditions of service for regular Government employees.\n<\/p>\n
A one-man Committee headed by Justice Charanjeet Talwar was set up by the  Government on 31st March, 1995 to examine the wage structure and conditions of  service of the ED Agents. Justice Talwar Committee submitted its report on 30th  April, 1997 making wide-ranging recommendations which, in effect, place the ED  Agents on equal footing with regular employees of the Central Government. The  recommendations of this Committee were duly processed and the Postal Staff  Federations were also consulted. In November 1997, the Government decided that  pending detailed consideration of the Committee’s recommendations, the basic  monthly allowance of different categories of ED Agents may be raised by a factor  of 3.25 with effect from 1.1.96. This was, however, not acceptable to the Postal  Staff Federations which insisted on implementation of the Justice Talwar  Committee recommendations, particularly, in regard to grant of first two scales  of pay, pension, leave and gratuity for ED Agents in the first instance.\n<\/p>\n
Early implementation of positive recommendations of Justice Talwar Committee  for ED Agents also figured in the Charter of Demands, on which two of the Postal  Federations went on strike during July, 1998. The hon. Members of both the  Houses have also expressed their concern for early implementation of the  recommendations of Justice Talwar Committee.\n<\/p>\n
The Government has fully and carefully considered the recommendations of  Justice Talwar Committee for Postal ED Agents and the various demands raised in  this regard by Postal Federations and has now decided to extend the following  benefits to the ED Agents:\n<\/p>\n
14.00 hrs. <\/p>\n
(i) The ED Agents will be paid arrears of allowance for the period 1st  January 1996 to 28th February 1998 by increasing their fixed basic monthly  allowance by a factor of 3.25.\n<\/p>\n
(ii) Different categories of ED Agents will be placed with effect from 1st  March, 1998 in two Time Related Continuity Allowance depending on the hours of  their employment corresponding to the first two scales of pay recommended by  Justice Talwar Committee. Only in respect of ED Sub-Postmaster there will be  only one Time Related Continuity Allowance.\n<\/p>\n
(iii) ED Agents will now be allowed paid leave at the rate of 10 days for  every half-year without any provision of carry forward or encashment and with  effect from the half year beginning from 1st July, 1998.\n<\/p>\n
(iv) The ex-gratia gratuity available to ED Agents at present will be raised  from the present Rs.6,000\/- to Rs.18,000\/-.\n<\/p>\n
(v) The amount of Office Maintenance Allowance as also allowed to ED Agents  will be raised from the existing Rs.25\/- to Rs.50\/- per month.\n<\/p>\n
6. As a measure of post-employment benefits to ED Agents, Government have  decided to provide lump sum severance amount of Rs.30,000\/- on retirement of an  ED Agent at the age of 65 years or in the event of death after completing a  minimum of 20 years of continuous service. In case of an ED Agent who has  completed only 15 to 20 years of continuous service, the severance amount shall  be Rs.20,000\/- on retirement or death. Payment of severance amount of Rs.20,000  will also be available for such ED Agents who are absorbed against regular  departmental posts after 15 years of continuous service as ED Agents.\n<\/p>\n
7. Necessary orders in this regard are being issued immediately.\n<\/p>\n
8. The payment of arrears to ED Agents for the revised basic monthly  allowance from 1-1-96 to 28-2-98 is estimated to cost an additional Rs.157.74  crore to the Government, while the additional annual expenditure on the other  substantial benefits now being extended to ED Agents is estimated to be of the  order of Rs.301.35 crore.\n<\/p>\n
9. Despite severe constraint of resources, the Government have gone a long  way to improve the conditions of service of Extra Departmental Agents. In this  connection, it may be noted that the existing annual wage bill of the Extra  Departmental Agents at present is about Rs.230 crore. To this Wage Bill, another  Rs.301.2 crore would now be added annually, thereby raising the total Wage Bill  to Rs.531.2 crore.\n<\/p>\n
10. Government is keen to ensure high morale among its Agents and bring about  new dedication and dynamism in the working of the Department. Government hopes  that Extra Departmental Agents would put their best foot forward in attaining a  very high level of efficiency and productivity.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>(CHIRAYINKIL<\/a>): It is a clear violation of the  agreement. (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI A.C. JOS <\/a>: The postal employees have threatened to go on strike.  (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>: This is a clear violation. (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI A.C. JOS <\/a>: There was a strike for a very long period. At the end of that  strike, they entered into an agreement. (Interruptions) There is no response  from the Government (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Radhakrishnan, please sit down. I am on my legs.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMACHANDRAN <\/a>(CANNANORE<\/a>): Sir, we want some clarifications.  (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI N.K. PREMACHANDRAN <\/a>(QUILON<\/a>): What about the recommendations of the  Talwar Committee?\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Mullapally Ramachandran, I am on my legs, please sit  down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: After a Minister makes a statement, no clarification is  sought. This House has no such tradition.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: I just cannot permit that. I am sorry.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI N.N. KRISHNADAS <\/a>(PALAKKAD<\/a>): There should be a discussion on this.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>: This matter should be discussed.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Radhakrishnan, there are other avenues that are  open.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI N.N. KRISHNADAS <\/a>: We want a discussion regarding this issue.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Hon. Members, please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: All right, if you want a discussion who is going to stop  you? Is anybody going to prevent you from raising the matter according to the  procedure? You can raise it under rule 193 or in any other form of  discussion.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Let Shri Balram Jakhar speak please.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MOHAMMAD ALI ASHRAF FATMI <\/a>: Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, what about the Zero  Hour? (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>: Sir, we want a discussion.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Radhakrishnan, you have other avenues. If you want  to have a discussion, you can give a notice under rule 193.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>: This is a misleading statement.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: You cannot raise it in this manner. Some rule should be  followed. How can you raise it this way?\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: He has made a statement. Maybe, it is misleading or  otherwise. I do not know about that. Whatever it may be, if you want to raise  the matter, you have to follow some rules and give some notice.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Radhakrishnan, you were a Speaker of an Assembly. I  am on my legs. Please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMACHANDRAN <\/a>: I hope, the Government will agree for a  discussion.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Wether the Government will agree or not, you can give  your notice. It is left to the discretion of the Speaker.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Jakhar, you may please start.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MOHAMMAD ALI ASHRAF FATMI <\/a>: Sir, you have already called me.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: I am sorry. Shri Fatmi is on his legs.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI N.K. PREMACHANDRAN <\/a>: Now that the hon. Minister is here, let him clarify  whether he is going to implement the Talwar Committee Report or not.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: I cannot compel him to give a clarification.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI N.N. KRISHNADAS <\/a>: Sir, we want a clarification.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Under the rules, on any statement made by a Minister, you  cannot ask for a clarification.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI N.N. KRISHNADAS <\/a>: Let him merely clarify the position.  (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Do not waste the time of the House. You may raise the  matter in some other form. You have other avenues open. Please do not disturb  now.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMACHANDRAN <\/a>: Keeping in view the seriousness of the  situation, you may decide on a discussion.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: You have to give some notice under some rule. Unless you  do that, how can I allow it? \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u094b\u0939\u092e\u094d\u092e\u0926 \u0905\u0932\u0940 \u0905\u0936\u0930\u092b \u092b\u093e\u0924\u092e\u0940 :  \u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f, \u0906\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u092e\u0941\u091d\u0947 \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0926\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0925\u093e\u0964 … (\u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\u092e\u0941\u091d\u0947  \u092c\u094b\u0932\u0928\u0947 \u0926\u0940\u091c\u093f\u090f\u0964 \u092e\u0941\u091d\u0947 \u092e\u094c\u0915\u093e \u092e\u093f\u0932\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
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… (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9)V\u00c9\u00a4\u00c9 \u00a8\u00c9\u00e4\u00ae\u00fa\u00c9 \u00ba\u00c9\u00a8\u00c9\u00aa\u00c9 \u00ba\u00c9\u00a8\u00c9\u00c9{i\u00c9 \u00bd\u00fe\u00c9\u00e4 V\u00c9\u00c9B i\u00c9\u00a4\u00c9 +\u00c9{\u00c9  \u00a4\u00c9\u00c9\u00e4\u00ca\u00b1\u00c9BM\u00c9\u00c9* … (\u00b4\u00aa\u00c9\u00b4\u00c9v\u00c9\u00c9x\u00c9) <\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Shri Radhakrishnan, you have been the Speaker of the  Kerala Assembly. If any matter is to be discussed, there must be a notice for  that.\n<\/p>\n
… (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Please follow the rules. After all, this House will have  to run according to the rules. If you are agitated, you give a notice under some  rule. Then, you will get an opportunity to discuss it.\n<\/p>\n
1421 hours <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch till twenty minutes past Fifteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
——–\n<\/p>\n
1525 hours <\/p>\n
The Lok Sabha re-assembled after Lunch at twenty-five minutes past Fifteen of the Clock.\n<\/p>\n
(Shri Khagapati Pradhani in the Chair) <\/p>\n
PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ <\/a>(BARAMULLA<\/a>): Sir, we want a discussion on the situation  in Iraq caused by bombing. You kindly announce whether it will be done under  Rule 193 or under any other rule. We want a discussion. It is an open aggression  on Iraq. The Prime Minister has made a statement. But we want a thorough  discussion.\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: You can raise it after the Minister makes a statement.\n<\/p>\n
The Parliamentary Affairs Minister will give a detailed statement in the  evening.\n<\/p>\n
PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ <\/a>: But we should know about the timing.\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: The meeting of the BAC is going on. In that meeting, they will  decide about the timing.\n<\/p>\n
Now we shall take up Matters under Rule 377.\n<\/p>\n
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