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Lok Sabha Debates<\/div>\n
Discussion On The Motion For Consideration Of Parliament … on 16 May, 2006<\/div>\n<\/p>\n
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Title <\/a>:  Discussion on the motion for consideration of Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment Bill, 2006 (Bill Passed).  <\/p>\n
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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: The House shall now take up Item No. 16A \u2013 Shri Hans Raj Bhardwaj.\n<\/p>\n
THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): Sir, I beg to move:\n<\/p>\n
\u201cThat the Bill further to amend the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959, be taken into consideration.\u201d <\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, article 102(1) of the Constitution provides that a person shall be disqualified for being chosen as and from being a Member of either House of Parliament, if he holds an office of profit under the Government of India or Government of a State other than the office declared by Parliament by law not to disqualify its holders.\n<\/p>\n
The expression \u2018office of profit\u2019 has not been defined in the Constitution or in any other Act not because it is impossible to define it but because it is not easy to frame an all-inclusive definition covering all kinds of posts which exist under the Government and which might hereafter be created. The Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959 and several other Acts of Parliament such as the Coffee Act, 1942, The Rubber Act, 1947 and the Rehabilitation Council of India Act, 1999 creating authorities or bodies in which Members of Parliament are represented, contain specific provisions to the effect that such office will not disqualify the holder on the ground that he is holding an office of profit.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The main provision in the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959 is contained in clauses (a) to (h) of section 3 which lists broadly 14 different categories of offices, the holding of which could not disqualify the holders thereof, or being chosen as and for being a Member of Parliament. Under clause (h) of section 3, holders of office of Chairman or Member of a Committee set up temporarily for the purpose of advising the Government or any other authority in respect of matter of public importance will not incur disqualification if such Chairman or Member is not entitled to any remuneration other than compensatory allowance.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At present, question regarding disqualification is to be decided in the case of pre-election dispute by the courts through election petition, and post-election disputes by the Election Commission of India under article 103 and article 192, and renders opinion to the President of India. Further, the Joint Committee on Office of Profit also examines the character and composition of various Committees, Boards, Commissions and other bodies, membership of which may disqualify a person from being chosen as and for being a Member of Parliament and to recommend what office should disqualify and what office should not disqualify.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, as you are aware, recently the issue had to be re-visited on account of disqualification of Members of Parliament on the basis of holding an office of profit. It was brought to our notice that over 40 Members, from both the Houses, are being affected by such cases of disqualification. You will appreciate that the law is being enacted to prevent those 40 Members of Parliament from being disqualified.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 With a view to include certain offices in Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959, it is proposed to enact this legislation, so as to exempt the holders of such offices from incurring disqualification. We have been able to get the information from all the Members of Parliament who have given the names of the institutions which they want to be exempted; and we want to make it as comprehensive as possible. So, this measure covers all those cases of Members, who are urgently to be prevented from being disqualified. This Bill includes those offices which firstly are in any statutory or non-statutory bodies specified in the table and secondly, the office of Chairperson or Trustee of any Trust, by whatever name called, whether public or private. They are exempted. The offices of Chairman, President, Vice-President or Principal-Secretary or Secretary of the Governing Body of any society registered under the Societies Registration Act, 1860 have also been included. This will enable office-bearers to contribute for the promotion of literature, science or arts and make use of their useful knowledge for charitable purposes in such institutions, which all are aimed at securing and achieving public welfare and public good.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 A Trust, as you know, is defined as an arrangement whereby the legal ownership of property is vested in the trustees for the benefit of a defined group of persons or for a defined object. In Trust, legal ownership belongs to the trustees and equitable ownership belongs to beneficiaries. Charity is a human instinct that drives man to think favourably of others and therefore do good to them. In our country, the benevolent role played by charitable Trusts has historical background and their existence has originated from the basic cultural trait peculiar to us. A trust is an obligation annexed to the ownership of property. The various forms of legal obligation apart from the Trust, inter alia are a society registered under the Societies Registration Act, 1860. A society registered under this Act is a legal entity apart from its members. Under the Societies Registration Act, the Governing Body may include, inter alia the offices of Chairman, President and so on and so forth. So, the table created under the Act includes all the institutions, the holders of office of which will be exempted under the present dispensation.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I commend this Bill for the consideration of this House.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Does this include exemption of the President of Shiromani Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee?\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>: I deeply appreciate and have regards to the importance of this institution.\u00a0 They are included because as I said, all trusts \u2013 public as well as private \u2013 are included.\u00a0 I am aware of the Shiromani Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee.\u00a0 They are the historic institutions and they are also covered.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion moved<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u201cThat the Bill further to amend the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959, be taken into consideration. \u201d <\/p>\n
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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>(BALASORE<\/a>): Sir, how much time has been allocated for its discussion?\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Two hours have been allocated for its discussion.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: I am a Member of the Business Advisory Committee.\u00a0 This notice has been sent to me indicating that in today’s BAC meeting it will be decided as to how much time should be allocated to this Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment Bill.\u00a0 The meeting is to take place at 4 o’clock today.\u00a0\u00a0 When the meeting has not taken place yet, how can the Chair say that two hours have been allocated?\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: If there is any necessity, we will extend the time for its discussion.\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: Sir, it should not be bulldozed in that way.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI B.K.\u00a0 HANDIQUE): It was decided in today’s Leaders’ Meeting at 1030 hours.\u00a0 It was unanimously decided in that meeting.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: Who says that it was unanimously decided?\u00a0 Our Party Members were not present there.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Your Leader was present in that meeting.\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: This is very unfair.\u00a0 It is nothing but mere bulldozing.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f<\/a>: \u0938\u0941\u092c\u0939 \u0915\u0940 \u092e\u0940\u091f\u093f\u0902\u0917 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0906\u092a\u0915\u0940 \u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u091f\u0940 \u0915\u0947 \u0932\u0940\u0921\u0930 \u092e\u094c\u091c\u0942\u0926 \u0925\u0947\u0964\u093e <\/p>\n
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SHRIMATI MANEKA GANDHI <\/a>(PILIBHIT<\/a>): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I am grateful that I have been given this opportunity by my Party to speak on this particular Bill because it brings back particularly unhappy memories.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In 1995, Shri Rajesh Pilot of the Congress Party, who was then the Minister for Environment, appointed me as the Chairperson of the Animal Welfare Board of India.\u00a0 I stayed in that post for many years and was re-appointed in 2000. \u00a0In 2002, the Annual Welfare Board had become a great nuisance for the pharmaceutical companies that ran bad laboratories.\u00a0 So, it was decided to remove me.\u00a0 But how to do that without incurring my wrath as a Member of the NDA, since the NDA Government was in power.\u00a0 So, Shri Baalu, who was then the Minister for Environment, all of a sudden notified the post of the Chairperson of the Animal Welfare Board as an office of profit \u2013 42 years after it had been made.\u00a0 I was removed and a Joint Secretary was put in my place for whom obviously it was not an office of profit even though it carried the same supposed perks.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This cynical exercise has been repeated in the last Session with the removal of a Rajya Sabha Member who also held the post of the UP Film Development Council.\u00a0 Tasting success in getting rid of an opponent, immediately the ruling coalition filed similar intents for other MPs that they were inimical to.\u00a0 Unfortunately this move backfired when it was seen that more Members of the ruling coalition including the Chairperson held similar offices of profit.\u00a0 Whereas the expelled Rajya Sabha Member did not take a house, car or any money given to her by the UP Film Development Corporation which in itself was in pathetic state, the Chairperson of the NAC on the other hand had both house, office and other perks given directly from the Prime Minister’s office.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In order to stop the growing criticism, in another extraordinary move, Parliament was adjourned sine die, cutting short a Session in which financial Bills had to be debated.\n<\/p>\n
Then, when the ruling coalition discovered that it could actually find a way to ensure that these perks of their people continued including their Chairperson, Parliament was suddenly recalled at great expense for a short while for the single-minded purposes of passing a Bill that exempts 46 posts from the Prevention of Disqualification of Members of Parliament Act, 1959 popularly known as the Office of Profit Act.\u00a0 This may be of great importance to the politicians who are reluctant and obstinate to leave their posts.\u00a0 But is it of national importance?I can understand a special Session being called to discuss terrorism or the continuing desperation of farmers.\u00a0 But why a special Session for this small and insignificant reason.\u00a0 How extraordinarily cynical is this?\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In this haste, every parliamentary norm has been abandoned.\u00a0 The then Speaker, Shri Shivraj Patil had once said that even if an amendment took place, the Bill should go back to the Standing Committee of the subject.\u00a0 This Bill has not gone to the Standing Committee at all.\u00a0 It has not been circulated two days before.\u00a0 The Parliamentary Affairs Minister said that it would only be passed with consensus.\u00a0 There is absolutely no consensus on the exemptions which have little meaning.\u00a0 The only consensus that we really do have is that every party has rushed to give the Parliamentary Affairs Minister a list of their own special people who are holding offices of profit.\u00a0 That is the limited consensus that we have.\u00a0 This Bill was supposed to eliminate the confusion over the office of profit.\u00a0 It has merely added to the confusion becoming a Bill to save the office and keep the profit.\u00a0 It is even sadder that a large proportion of the saved offices should be those of West Bengal.\u00a0 I suppose that is one of the parties of being the driving force in the ruling coalition.\u00a0 The Left has 19 out of 46 which is approximately 40 per cent which is their share of this bizarre list.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Should the line between the legislature and the executive be blurred for any reason?\u00a0 Should this lakshman rekha be erased in which ever place we like?\u00a0 This opens a Pandora\u2019s box.\u00a0 Today, you exempt 46.\u00a0 Tomorrow, we will exempt 100 and put these 46 behind the line again and so forth.\u00a0 Once it is decided that the legislative member whether of Parliament or the State Assemblies can take handouts to hold an office of profit, then anything is possible.\u00a0 Parliament which took such a strong stand in expelling MPs for misuse of their MPLADS and for\u00a0 taking money for questions has taken three steps back to again show the people of India that we will tolerate and condone anything when it comes to our own comforts.\u00a0 Article 102(1)(A) bars an MP or an MLA from holding an office of profit under the Government of India or in any other State other than the office declared by Parliament law as not disqualifying the holder.\u00a0 So, we disregard the gravity of this law and sneak in through the loopholes to give 46 Members of Parliament their own little fiefdoms again.\u00a0 And we use Parliament\u2019s time and the taxpayer\u2019s money in order to do it.\u00a0 Again how extraordinarily cynical.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The hon. Speaker has chosen to stay away from the discussion.\u00a0 Perhaps he should have chosen to walk the straight and narrow path as well \u2013 to give up the Sriniketan-Shantiniketan Development Authority.\u00a0 Caesar\u2019s wife must be above all scandal.\u00a0 The Minister of Parliamentary Affairs, Shri Dasmunsi has said in the press:\n<\/p>\n
\u201cIt is not a question of saving any one\u2019s skin.\u00a0 It is a question of saving the dignity of Parliament.\u201d <\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Have we saved it with today\u2019s Bill?\u00a0 Have you read the editorials all over the country which have made fun of the exemptions and the nakedness of the greed attached to them?\u00a0 All you have done is simply made the 1959 law redundant by protecting the posts that individuals want them to be protected.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Let us go into the bizarreness of some these exemptions.\u00a0 The Uttar Pradesh Film Development Corporation cannot be exempt but the West Bengal Handicrafts Development can be exempt.\u00a0 No Adviser to the Chief Minister can be exempted except the Adviser to the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh.\u00a0 The Wakf Board of West Bengal can be exempted but the much larger Wakf Boards of Delhi, Punjab and Haryana cannot be exempted.\u00a0 The Uttar Pradesh and the West Bengal Development Boards are allowed but no other State is allowed.\u00a0 Let us look at the people who head these. Strange and bizarre!\u00a0 You have exempted the Indian Institute of Psycometry.\u00a0 What is so important about this that we have to exempt it so that somebody can get a car and a red light?\n<\/p>\n
Likewise, most of these are not of national importance. They are even of limited State importance. But who sit on them are relatives and people who are really important to the State Government, or the powers that be. So, what could be the reasons for exempting these posts?\u00a0 Does the Government wish to give an additional public image to those of their MPs who could not be accommodated in the Ministries but need a car and office?\u00a0 Could it be that these offices provide not just the holders the perks but with an opportunity to benefit not only himself or herself but their parties? Many of these exempted posts are held by special people, relatives of those in power or people who are exceptionally close to them.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
Do you not think that the post of a Parliamentarian is in itself significant enough? Or, that the duties of a Parliamentarian are so onerous if taken seriously that there would be little time left to do justice to important independent organisations?\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The voters send each one of us to Parliament to make good laws, monitor their implementation and to represent a section of India and make their lives better. Members are supposed to be present most of the time and take part in the issues that they feel competent to address. Any time given to yet another office would be stealing time unjustly from what you are elected to be. Surely, the Speaker\u2019s office, for instance, is already overcrowded with work.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Suppose we were appointed to be doctors and teachers, would the nation regard us with respect if we took time off from our professions to run other parallel enterprises that gave us extra money and have red lights on our cars? An office of profit is nothing but a second job done at the cost of the first one and often instead of the first one. When the Act was made by people wiser than us had a point and that was to force lawmakers, which we are, to concentrate on law making.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Should Members of Parliament be continually seen as those poor unhappy people who did not get the crumbs of office that a few did in the Executive? Should the Legislature be begging from the Executive and depending on their largesse? Should Members of Parliament be seen as those that hanker after subsidiary posts thrown to them by the Executive to give them false sense of importance and access to money?\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This Bill is a cynical exercise to protect power and privilege. Any talk of continual sacrifice becomes negated by the unashamed protection given to a few people who are desperate to cling to some loaves of office, even if they have to fight elections again and again protesting their morality. Either exempt all or bar all. There cannot be any exceptions.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We oppose this Bill.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO <\/a>(PARVATIPURAM<\/a>): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, thank you. I rise to support this Bill. The hon. Minister has already mentioned that a very piquant situation would have arisen if this Bill was not brought forward and there would have been a spate of elections litigations etc. This is just an amendment to give extension to certain posts which were already exempt in the Prevention of Disqualification Act, 1959.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I was amazed and shocked at the manner in which the hon. Leader of the Opposition opposed the very introduction of this Bill in a rather very unprecedented manner. I have always held him in some esteem having been here with him in Parliament for some time. But the only reason he did not oppose this Bill on various grounds that was mentioned by the predecessor speaker. The Leader of the Opposition specifically mentioned more than once that he was opposing the introduction of the Bill only because the post of the Chairperson of the National Advisory Council was included in this amendment to be exempt from the office of profit.\n<\/p>\n
Sir, I would like to assert, as the Law Minister has already said, that the Chairperson of the National Advisory Council was created by an Executive Order of the Committee.\u00a0 It is not a creation of the Constitution.\u00a0\u00a0 It was by an Executive Order of the Cabinet that this post was created.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, the whole world knows that we are running a coalition Government.\u00a0 This particular arrangement was actually created after it was agreed upon by Members of the ruling coalition to facilitate the functioning of the coalition Government.\u00a0 I can understand Mr. Advani\u2019s anxiety.\u00a0 Certainly I do not expect neither he nor any of the friends sitting on the other side to be happy if the coalition runs in a smooth and effective manner.\u00a0\u00a0 That is worth appreciation.\u00a0 Naturally, the Opposition would like that arrangement to collapse as soon as possible.\u00a0 Fortunately or unfortunately, the NAC is a political advisory body.\u00a0 It is only a political body which is of an advisory nature.\u00a0\u00a0 As Mr. Advani himself quoted in the morning, it was to monitor the National Common Minimum Programme and to provide inputs for policies.\u00a0 What is wrong in that?\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Before I go further, I would like to mention that you must understand the very ethos of this particular legislation which was brought in 1959.\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, we all know that in 1954, Bhargava Committee was set up and after it submitted its Report, the Prevention of Disqualification Act was brought as a sequel.\u00a0\u00a0 Some statutory bodies and offices were included to be exempted from this provision.\u00a0\u00a0 The main driving principle behind this legislation was actually to prevent conflict of interests.\u00a0\u00a0 Conflict of interests where?\u00a0 Conflict of interests between one\u2019s personal interest, of what one would personally gain so that it does not come between you, and the issues that concern the public.\u00a0\u00a0 So, this is to ensure that these do not have conflicting interests in the policies and programmes of the people that may come before the House.\u00a0 It was with this in mind that this particular legislation was introduced.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 By monitoring the National Common Minimum Programme or by providing inputs to policy matters, are you conflicting with the interests of the nation or the people?\u00a0\u00a0 On the contrary, it is to facilitate that.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, we all know that the National Employment Guarantee Scheme which was applauded by all sections of the House, the Right to Information Bill and several other legislations were brought in this House.\u00a0 They were accepted by all sections of this House after the National Advisory Council had vetted these various legislations and recommended them to the ruling coalition.\u00a0\u00a0 What is wrong in that?\u00a0 Where is the personal interest that conflicts against national interests when it comes to this?\u00a0\u00a0 I am extremely sorry to say one point, when\u00a0 I heard the Leader of the Opposition.\u00a0 I felt that it was directed against one person.\u00a0 I did not expect this from a person for whom I have certain political respect.\u00a0\u00a0 That is why, I was rather disappointed.\u00a0 I would have expected the Leader of the Opposition to oppose it on some principle, on some legal grounds or constitutionally or on some other procedure but not on a personal basis like this.\u00a0\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
Sir, we have heard my predecessor, Shrimati Maneka Gandhi speaking.\u00a0 I can understand her anguish because, as she herself said, she was a victim of this earlier.\u00a0 But does that mean that we should push it all along to this extent.\u00a0 She was removed from a particular post and naturally, she has to vent those feelings and that anger is still burning within her.\u00a0\u00a0 That is very well taken and I certainly appreciate whatever she said.\u00a0 But in this new situation and circumstance, there is a need for us to have a deeper look into this entire concept.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This Bill which has been introduced by the hon. Minister for Law only seeks to extend the list to see that a kind of unprecedented situation does not come before us.\u00a0 He had explained about that.\u00a0 So, I do not want to go into further details.\u00a0 I would like to mention that there is a necessity to debate this issue still further.\u00a0 There is no definition of an Office of Profit.\u00a0 As and when a certain matter came up, it went to the Committee.\u00a0 The Committee made its recommendations and based on that, an amendment was brought in Parliament and then, that particular office was either included or deleted from this particular list.\n<\/p>\n
Today, Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I think there is a need for us to delve deeper into this matter and go into it in detail.\u00a0 Let there be a national debate on this.\u00a0 I think at a later date the Parliament should discuss this issue threadbare and then come up with certain permanent solution to this particular aspect.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI GURUDAS DASGUPTA <\/a>(PANSKURA<\/a>): The point that you are making implies that this Bill is ad hoc.\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO <\/a>: Hon. Member Shri Gurudas Das Gupta is a very senior Member.\u00a0 I would like to clarify further my point.\u00a0 The amendment which is brought to this particular Act cannot be an ad hoc arrangement, it is a permanent arrangement. What I meant by saying so was that this entire aspect has to be debated further.\u00a0 I am prepared to explain as to why it should be debated further.\u00a0 I am not saying that this should come along with this Bill itself.\u00a0 The Law Minister is present here.\u00a0 I am requesting him and the entire House to consider this aspect in the light of the new developments which have taken place in the course of time.\u00a0 Forty-five years have passed.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In 1985 the Anti-Defection Law was passed in Parliament.\u00a0 It was passed and the Tenth Schedule was incorporated in the Constitution of India.\u00a0 Prior to 1985 a Member could vote in any manner he liked on the floor of this House.\u00a0 But post-1985, after the Tenth Schedule was incorporated in the Constitution, there is no question of a Member’s vote having conflict with his personal interest. \u00a0Even if a Member had a personal interest in a particular institution in which he was serving, he has to go by the party whip.\u00a0 What I am trying to say is that from 1985 onwards, in the last twenty years, if you violate the party whip, then you have to do it at the expense of losing your seat.\u00a0 What is the right that a Member has got? Apart from speaking in Parliament, he has the right to vote.\u00a0 It is a sacred right, an intrinsic right a Member or a legislator has is to cast his vote in the Parliament or in the Legislature.\u00a0 This vote was unrestricted.\u00a0 But what I am trying to say is that after 1985, after the Tenth Schedule was incorporated, that vote is not unrestricted any more.\u00a0 It is controlled by the party.\u00a0 So, today an MP or a few MPs cannot vote against the party whip without losing the membership of this House.\u00a0 This is a qualitative difference which has come in.\u00a0 Till a decade ago, I think around the year 1995, I do not know the exact date, the Supreme Court held that people’s representatives are to be treated as public servants.\u00a0 This was in order to enable cases framed against MPs by using the Prevention of Corruption Act.\u00a0 I have no problems with that at all.\u00a0 If you want to frame people’s representatives under the Prevention of Corruption Act, go ahead.\u00a0 If you want to treat them as public servants, it is fine.\u00a0 But then you cannot treat them as public servants for one purpose and then say: “Do not hold public office.”\u00a0 I do not know if I have understood the entire thing wrongly.\u00a0 But I would like the Members to apply their minds to this aspect also.\u00a0 These are new developments which have taken place somewhere down the line and it is necessary for us to apply our minds to all these various aspects when we are talking of office of profit.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Though this says that anything you take other than Compensatory Allowance shall be an office of profit.\u00a0 It is not clearly defined.\u00a0 I have gone through certain parts of Bhargava Committee’s Report.\u00a0 I myself was thoroughly confused at the end of it.\u00a0 It is not defined and it is not said what should be an office of profit and what should not be an office of profit.\u00a0\u00a0 It says that it is not just a question of money or getting a red light or a car.\u00a0 It is whether it is in conflict in your functioning as a Member of this House against the interest of the nation or of the people.\n<\/p>\n
Once you are convinced that that is going to happen, then the issue becomes different.\u00a0 I do not want to go debating on or replying to these petty things about the usage of a car or of a red light, and so on and so forth. In this particular case,\u00a0 from the long list which is attached herewith, I am told that there have been Members who have been holding this post for the last 15 years or 20 years and nobody has objected. They are there on a particular Board as a Director or a Chairman for 10 years, 15 years or 20 years.\u00a0 Suddenly, someone sends a petition, then, you get a notice saying that you have to explain your position. Sir, very respectfully and humbly, I would like to submit that there are other constitutional bodies also which are going out of hand.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
Sir, the Election Commission was given a list. I am not discussing the Election Commission. When they are given a list, Election Commission has no business to write to them asking for more information.\u00a0 You see, the petitioner should have given information and sent it to the Election Commission.\u00a0 You do not write back to them asking them for information and then to people who have been holding these offices for over two decades and then go on a binge and start asserting\u00a0 your right or authority to disqualify Members.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, I have a different perception of this.\u00a0 This amendment is restricted only to controlling the present situation, which is there before us, to ensure that a spate of litigations, elections and unnecessary expenditure does not take place.\u00a0 Now, as far as the House is concerned, the House was anyway decided to be adjourned because of the elections, not because of this.\u00a0 The Demands were guillotined.\u00a0 The Finance Bill was passed.\u00a0 This was an earlier understanding to enable Leaders of political parties and all of us to go and compaign for the ensuing elections.\u00a0 In any case, I think, the Parliament was originally to have rescheduled and met on the 10th of May, 2006.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Silence please.\u00a0 No running commentary.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO <\/a>: Sir, hon. Members can have their say. I have no quarrels with them. What I am trying to say is that one should not look at this particular issue with a myopic kind of a view.\u00a0 This is a larger issue and it needs to be debated.\u00a0 The situation has changed from then today.\n<\/p>\n
When you are talking of conflicting interests, I would like to put a few questions before this House.\u00a0 By holding a Government office, either of the State Government or of the Central Government, you may or may not be in a position to discharge your duties in an effective and proper manner. But today, especially in the context of the new developments that have taken place in our country, today I can be the owner of an airline company.\u00a0 I can get elected to Parliament and I can also become a Minister of Civil Aviation.\u00a0 No conflicting interests will be there. I can be a major\u2026 (Interruptions) What I am trying to say is that even if it is not Government or State, my intention is this. Tomorrow, you may be a Director or a Chairman of a private company.\u00a0 You can become an MP.\u2026 (Interruptions) Okay. You have to step down to become a Minister but your interests are still over there.\u2026 (Interruptions) So, I think, these aspects need to be debated and discussed.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: No running commentary please.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO <\/a>: My opinion is that these situations are coming into play in our political system. I may be right or wrong but I am entitled to my views. If they have to resign, I do not know under which rule one has to resign from a Government job or of any connection with the Government.\u00a0 But if it is for any private company \u2013 private players are coming in today in large numbers in various sections of society \u2013 what about their conflicting interests when they come here to Parliament? Let there be a national debate on this.\u00a0 Let the House discuss it threadbare.\u00a0 I wish that some time later, the House and the Leaders of the political parties from various sides should discuss and come to some kind of a consensus on this issue as far as article 102 of the Constitution is concerned.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 With these words, I support this Bill.\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>(BANKURA<\/a>):\u00a0 Sir, I rise to support this Bill.\u00a0 This has necessitated because the situation has arisen today that some of the offices have been treated as the office of profit.\u00a0 This is not a new thing that for the first the time the Schedule is being amended and some new corporations or some organizations are being added.\u00a0 It is being continuously done since 1952.\u00a0 After adoption of our Constitution, it has been stated in Article 102 in Constitution that:\n<\/p>\n
\u201c(1)\u00a0 A person shall be disqualified for being chosen as, and for being, a member of either House of Parliament \u2013  <\/p>\n
(a)\u00a0 if he holds any office of profit under the Government of India or the Government of any State, other than an office declared by Parliament by law not to disqualify its holder; \u201d <\/p>\n
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Sir, Constitution has very clearly stated that the Parliament has right to amend the law.\u00a0 The law was amended in 1952, then again in 1953 and subsequently in 1959 and since then, time and again, the Act has been amended.\u00a0 This provision has been incorporated in the Constitution of India.\u00a0 The main purpose is that the Member of Parliament or Member of Legislative Assembly will have an independent role and will not be subservient to the Executive.\u00a0 That is why that Member of Parliament is not permitted to hold the office of profit.\u00a0 But, the problem is that there is no clear definition of office of profit.\u00a0 Sir, the Supreme Court as well as the High Court, in different judgements, have stated which office could be treated as office of profit.\u00a0 There is a Joint Committee of Parliament on Office of Profit.\u00a0 What that Committee has stated in their recent report? That Parliamentary Committee has, in fact, on one occasion outlined the basic principle on this question:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u201cThe Committee feels that the basic principle underlying the imposition of disqualification under Article 102 (1) (a) and Article 191 (1) (a) of the Constitution is that a member of the Legislature should not be indebted to Government by accepting an \u2018office of profit\u2019 under the Government and thus compromise his independence.\u201d <\/p>\n
By accepting an office of profit, it means he compromises his independence.\u00a0 In other words, an office of profit does not mean an office that yields monetary profit.\u00a0 Holding an office of profit is like holding an Executive post, which is likely to create a conflict of interest.\u00a0 That is the most important thing, conflict of interest with the conduct of Legislature.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u201cIn final analysis, the job of the Legislature is to keep a check on the Executive and not to be subservient to it.\u201d <\/p>\n
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The question is whether such organisations, corporations and other bodies will be treated as offices of profit or not.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, in December, 2005, the Joint Parliamentary Committee on Office of Profit had submitted a Report to Parliament identifying three criteria to determine if holding a certain office should disqualify Members of Parliament under the law. These are:\n<\/p>\n
(a)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0whether the holder draws any remuneration like sitting fee, honorarium, salary etc. other than the compensatory allowance;\n<\/p>\n
(b)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0whether the body in which an office is held exercises executive, legislative or judicial power or confers power of disbursement of funds, allotment of lands, issue of licences or gives power of appointment, grant of scholarship;\n<\/p>\n
(c)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0whether the body in which an office is held wields influence or power by way of patronage.\n<\/p>\n
The Committee said that closer look at this criteria is needed and a comprehensive law defining the criteria which shall determine the categorisation of office of profit needs to be urgently taken up. This Committee have also recommended that there should be a clear definition of \u2018office of profit\u2019 and spell out the offices that can be treated as offices of profit.\n<\/p>\n
Sir, in the proposed legislation, a list of 45 bodies has been included in the Schedule. Even during the NDA regime, such exemption was given when there was a need for that.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN\u00a0 <\/a>: Is it 45 or 46?\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: It may be 45 or 46, but that does not mean that the spirit of the Constitution is being flouted because the Constitution itself provides that Parliament can enact law and Parliament can give exemption to certain bodies from the purview of office of profit.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: With retrospective effect! <\/p>\n
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Maybe with retrospective effect. What is the problem?\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, the Leader of the Opposition has raised an objection. His objection is only with regard to Clause 2 of this amending legislation. This is not the question of any individual. The Government has created advisory bodies and advisory councils in the past also and the UPA Government has created the National Advisory Council. There is an Economic Advisory Council. In the same way, the National Advisory Council has been created. The Opposition\u2019s main purpose is to target one individual. The National Advisory Council is not a constitutional body also.\n<\/p>\n
We have not targeted anyone.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: We are targeting his party more\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: No running commentary please.\u00a0 Nothing should be recorded except the speech of Shri Acharia.\u00a0 Any Member speaking without my permission will not be recorded.\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>: Sir, this is not a question of any individual.\u00a0 What is needed today is a clear definition of the Office of Profit.\u00a0 This legislation will not serve the purpose for which it has been brought because the problem will recur in future also.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, the Members of Parliament are to discharge various responsibilities.\u00a0 They are accountable to the people of our country by discharging various responsibilities.\u00a0 We will have to see whether that accountability is being hampered or not.\u00a0 In order to have a clear definition in regard to Office of Profit, I suggest that a sub-committee be constituted, which will go into the question of definition of the Office of Profit because the Constitution of India has not defined which organisation or which body will be treated as Office of Profit.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Constitution of India has stated that, \u2018only if he holds any Office of Profit under the Government of India or the Government of the State\u2019.\u00a0 Today, those who are raising objection to this, I will request them to see what is happening in their States, particularly, in the State of Jharkhand.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now we have passed a legislation and the number of Ministers has been restricted to 15 per cent.\u00a0 Those who have not been made Ministers have been made Chairmen of certain corporations and certain bodies in order to save the Government or even in order to form the Government also.\n<\/p>\n
So, there is a need for a deeper look into this question. That is why we have suggested that the basic issues of the definition of Office of Profit under the Constitution, the separation of legislative and executive powers, and whether the Members of Parliament should hold non-legislative offices, should be examined in depth by a Special Committee constituted by the Parliament.\u00a0 The recommendation of that Committee should be taken up for consideration and implementation.\u00a0 So, Sir, the necessity has arisen to amend the Act.\u00a0 It is being done today.\u00a0 But to avoid any problem in future we should go deeper into this question and a clear definition of Office of Profit should be determined in future so that there will not be a problem as to which office can be treated as office of profit and which bodies can be treated as office of profit, and there will be a clear definition of office of profit.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BHANWAR SINGH DANGAWAS <\/a>(NAGAUR<\/a>): Sir, I would like to submit that we should first constitute a Committee to suggest the definition of \u2018office of profit\u2019 and then we should pass the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: No.\u00a0 Please sit down.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now, Shri Mohan Singh.\n<\/p>\n
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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Please do not interrupt the hon. Member. Nothing should be recorded except the speech of Shri Brajesh Pathak.\n<\/p>\n
(Interruptions) \u2026*  <\/p>\n
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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Please sit down. Nothing will go on record.\n<\/p>\n
(Interruptions) \u2026*  <\/p>\n
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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Please maintain silence in the House.\n<\/p>\n
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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Next speaker is Shri Anant Gangaram Geete.\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
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\u2026( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Please maintain silence in the House.\n<\/p>\n
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\u0907\u0938\u0932\u093f\u090f \u092f\u0939 \u091c\u094b \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u0935\u093f\u0927\u0947\u092f\u0915 \u0906\u092f\u093e \u0939\u0948, \u092f\u0939 \u0938\u0902\u0935\u093f\u0927\u093e\u0928 \u0914\u0930 \u0938\u0902\u0938\u0926 \u0915\u0940 \u0917\u0930\u093f\u092e\u093e \u0915\u094b \u0916\u0924\u094d\u092e \u0915\u0930\u0928\u0947 \u0935\u093e\u0932\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964 \u0939\u092e \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u091f\u0940 \u0915\u0940 \u0913\u0930 \u0938\u0947 \u0907\u0938 \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u0935\u093f\u0927\u0947\u092f\u0915 \u0915\u093e \u092a\u0941\u0930\u095b\u094b\u0930 \u0935\u093f\u0930\u094b\u0927 \u0915\u0930\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY <\/a>(PURI<\/a>): Hon. Chairman, Sir, I stand to oppose the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment Bill, 2006.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In the proposed Bill, the hon. Minister originally sought to exempt 46 offices of profit. Now, within the period of a few hours, that number has gone up to 56. I do not know how many more offices will be brought under the purview of the Bill by the time it comes to the stage of passing. Perhaps the hon. Minister has no idea of that but can he tell us the exact figure?\n<\/p>\n
Sir, this is the fate of this Parliament.\u00a0\u00a0 Now the cat is out of the bag.\u00a0 The Government is completely exposed and its alliance parties are also exposed.\u00a0 Their highly propounded aaj ka mahatma and the so-called sacrifice are also exposed.\u00a0 It reminds me of the writing of the famous author, Mr. George Orwell who has written a novel called \u201cThe Animal Farm\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Satirically, he has made a reference about the democracy of animals in that novel. In their constitution, all are equal but some are more equal than others.\u00a0 Now, the hon. Minister has asked us through this Bill to give a stamp\u00a0 to make some Members more equal.\u00a0 As per the Constitution, all are equal but some are going to be more equal.\u00a0 This is what the hon. Minister has tried to express in this legislation.\u00a0 So, we are now following the animal constitution and not the human constitution.\u00a0 The Minister has brought Parliament to this level.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
What is happening outside Parliament?\u00a0 The entire media is laughing at us.\u00a0 The Parliament is becoming a laughing stock because of this legislation.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This reminds me of the pre-emergency period.\u00a0\u00a0 What had happened at the time, when Shrimati Indira Gandhi, the then Prime Minister, was defeated in the Allahabad High Court in an election case? She used this Parliament to amend the Constitution and to amend the election laws flouting the decision of the court.\u00a0 Now also, the hon. Minister is using the Parliament just for the benefit of some Members of the ruling party.\u00a0 If this Parliament passes this Bill protecting all prominent Members, then every State will follow suit and there will be a spate of legislation in States totally circumventing articles 102 and 191.\u00a0 By this amendment, the spirit of the Constitution is going to be diluted and defeated. \u00a0Any further amendment or legislation to exempt a large number of Offices of Profit will make articles 102 and 191 redundant. Then what will happen?\u00a0 Is it enough to enlarge the exemption list or is a clear definition necessary now? The hon. Minister should react to this point. Or should we go to the roots of the problem and strike off the clause disqualifying the MPs if they hold such offices?\u00a0 We have also not examined the rationale behind this concept and how important or relevant it is in the present day context.\u00a0 The Minister should reply to this point.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I would just like to remind you that the Constituent Assembly debates do not appear to contain a detailed discussion of the need for or the implication of article 102 which seems to be a faithful adoption of whatever was in vogue in the House of Commons.\u00a0 We have just adopted the provisions of the House of Commons. There is no detailed discussion on this aspect.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Articles 18, 58, 59, 64, 158, 102 and 191 of the Constitution deal with the clause of Office of Profit.\u00a0 Article 102 (1)(a) of the Constitution disqualifies MPs if they hold any Office of Profit under the Central or State Governments except those listed in the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959.\u00a0 Yet, the law of 1959 is silent on which Office of Profit is exempted and there is no strong ground or logic behind this exemption.\u00a0 What is the logic behind this?\u00a0 Why some offices should be exempted and why other offices will remain?\u00a0 What is the reason behind this?\u00a0 Why not all offices are exempted?\u00a0 What is the meaning of article 102 then?\u00a0\u00a0 If you do not want the provisions of this article of this Constitution to remain, then we can repeal this saying that there is no need for it.\u00a0 If at all you want to maintain the spirit of the provisions of article 102, then I feel that this type of an amendment seems to be a mockery of parliamentary democracy.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The philosophy behind article 102 must have been the separation of power.\u00a0 Since a Member of Parliament or Legislative Assembly represents the legislature, which ought to enjoy independence and must be free to criticise the Executive, MPs holding an office of profit under the Government might involve a conflict of interest, diluting their independence.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Parties in power might create posts indiscriminately and use them to accommodate their Members, just as it is being done now.\u00a0 This amendment has been brought forward to accommodate some MPs.\u00a0 When other parties come to power they will also do the same thing.\u00a0 They will also follow the same example that we are setting today.\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
Article 102 has already virtually neutralised itself\u00a0 by providing for legislative exemption in the article itself.\u00a0 Now, it is only to be expected that more and more posts would get exempted.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The National Commission which was appointed to review the working of the Constitution recommended that Constitution should be suitably amended to empower the Election Commission to identify which offices should be deemed to be offices of profit and which are not. Until that happens the criteria fixed by the Supreme Court should be the “settled law”.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now, we are diluting that thing.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Act of 1959 itself is of doubtful validity.\u00a0 Any further dilution of article 102 will be struck down by the Supreme Court as a fraud on the Constitution.\u00a0 Its object is not only to prevent conflict of interests but also to prevent the sale of souls. Can the hon. Minister assure this House that the Supreme Court will not strike down this provision that we are bringing in today? If the Supreme Court strikes down this provision, what will happen to the prestige of the House? I want to know this from the hon. Law Minister.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The damage was done by the Parliament through the Prevention of Disqualification Act, 1959.\u00a0 It was a cynical measure, in a complete break from the past.\u00a0 It was a substantial consolation prize to legislators who were denied ministerial berths. It is also a means of evading the ceiling of Cabinet berths.\u00a0 When we are not able to adjust the MLAs and MPs in the Cabinet, we are increasing these exemptions and take them out of the purview of the office of profit.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The House of Commons Disqualification Act, 1975 bars MPs from membership of public authorities and undertakings. We are following mostly the British Constitution.\u00a0 Hence it is now a dilution and mockery of parliamentary democracy.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No MP or MLA should occupy any office other than created by this House.\u00a0 We do not object to that if the House creates some posts.\u00a0 But it should not be done in this way.\u00a0 We have some posts created by the Parliament, like some posts in Coffee Board, etc.\u00a0 But it should not be done by way of dilution.\u00a0 If the Minister and the Government feels that provision of article 102 is redundant and is not necessary, then they can go for a Constitution (Amendment) Bill to repeal this provision of article 102.\u00a0 But it should not be done in this way.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 With these few words I oppose this Bill.\u00a0 My Party is also opposing this Bill.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VIJAYENDRA PAL SINGH <\/a>(BHILWARA<\/a>): Sir, I just want to make one point here.\u00a0 A special Session has been called only to discuss the office of profit.\u00a0 Heavens are not going to fall if we allot more time to discuss this.\u00a0 We also want to speak on this.\u00a0 Why is it that at 4 o’clock we want to pass it? What is the hurry about it? We also want to speak on this.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU <\/a>(SRIKAKULAM<\/a>): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the hon. Minister for Law and Justice has brought this Bill bypassing the rules and procedures and everything, with the permission of the Speaker. There is no necessity.\u00a0 There is no hurry to bring this Bill hurriedly. It had never happened.\u00a0 This Bill was enacted in the year 1959.\u00a0 After 1959, it was amended five times in the years 1960, 1977, 1993, 1999 and 2000. But it had never happened with retrospective effect.\u00a0 All the time, the laws were with prospective effect.\u00a0 What is the necessity?\u00a0 What is the need to amend this Act with retrospective effect \u2013 to safeguard some people? The Statement of Objects and Reasons has been necessitated due to the recent developments. This concerns approximately 40 or more Members from both the Houses of Parliament who are holding offices of Chairman or they are members of various statutory, non-statutory bodies and who are facing disqualification proceedings on the ground that they are holding an office of profit. There is nothing wrong in it.\u00a0 Madam Gandhi also resigned.\u00a0 She has been re-elected and has come to the House. After the petition was filed against her, she resigned on moral grounds, or whatever may be, and she contested the election. Why have you given this exemption to all these people with retrospective effect?\u00a0 For the first time in the country, we are amending the Act with retrospective effect.\u00a0 My party opposes this \u2018with retrospective effect\u2019 and everything.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0Sir, I come to this article 101 \u2013 disqualification from the Membership.\u00a0 Even article 191 relates to the members of the Legislative Assemblies. So, what is the spirit of these articles?\u00a0 We have a right, the Parliament has a right, to enact a law, to give exempt who are holding office of profit. I admit it. I also voted in the years 1999 and 2000.\u00a0 I was a part of the Amendment Bill.\u00a0 I supported it.\u00a0 Even now, I decided to support it. But I am not happy with the way the Congress got this Bill. Nobody knew in the country that there was a Disqualification Act in the year 1959. So many amendments were made.\u00a0 After Shrimati Jaya Bachchan\u2019s disqualification, after Shrimati Sonia Gandhi\u2019s resignation only, the country could know office of profit Act, the Disqualification Act. I would like to ask the Law Minister that the Congress Government\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU <\/a>: Sir, supposing, one Congress worker has filed a petition against Shrimati Jaya Bachchan.\u00a0 The President made a reference to the Election Commission to enquire whether she comes under the office of profit or not. Okay, I understand it. It came in the newspaper.\u00a0 If the Minister had brought the amendment at that time, this problem would not have arisen.\u00a0 The Government was silent. Why were you silent? Why are you in a hurry about all these MPs?\u00a0 Please answer to this House, answer to the people.\u00a0 So, this step is a hasty one. There should be equality before law.\u00a0 The Government should take everybody in the same footing.\u00a0 We have not done in the Jaya Bachchan\u2019s case. Now, we want to protect so many people.\u00a0 If this had been done earlier, if the legislation had been brought in the last Session, this problem would not have arisen.\u00a0 You please see the list. According to this amendment, 45 entities are included.\u00a0 Even other entities will also come.\u00a0 So many people are leaving the list. I have no objection. But instead of that, at this time, a comprehensive law is required.\u00a0 In so many States, so many Corporations and so many trusts are also there. It is better to include at one stage. It is better to refer to the Standing Committee.\u00a0 It is better to bring a comprehensive law with all entities and everything, once and for all.\u00a0 Then, everybody will appreciate.\u00a0 It should not be done piecemeal. Otherwise, if we want to include 140 or 200 entities, it is better to abrogate or repeal articles 101 and 191.\u00a0 What is the sanctity if we include by every amendment 100 entities or 200 entities?\u00a0 In that case, the sanctity of the Constitution and the spirit of articles 101 and 191 would carry no meaning. Instead of that, it is better to repeal these two articles.\u00a0 If the Government wants to appoint any person, there would not be any office of profit; nobody will file petition before the President.\u00a0 Nobody will do anything. Everybody will enjoy.\u00a0 The spirit of the Constitution is to give respect.\u00a0 Any Member of Parliament, any Member of Legislature should not occupy office of profit.\u00a0 They may influence, they may get something.\u00a0 But, some exemptions are there.\u00a0 That is why the Constitution has given power to the Parliament to amend, to enact and also to give some exemptions.\u00a0 It means you have to include anything that deserves in a proper manner.\u00a0 So, even though we are supporting this thing but this is not the proper way.\u00a0 In future you have to be very cautious.\u00a0 If something happens, you bring the legislation like that.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI SURAVARAM SUDHAKAR REDDY <\/a>(NALGONDA<\/a>):\u00a0 Sir, I rise to support the Bill introduced by the hon. Law Minister but\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
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THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI):\u00a0 Yerrannaiduji, you spoke well.\u00a0 I would just intervene.\u00a0 We have embodied in the list \u2018A\u2019 all trusts private or public in general, all societies under the Societies Registration Act and \u2018B\u2019 all the statutory bodies.\u00a0 So, trusts are covered, societies are covered without any exception.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MAJ. GEN. <\/a>(RETD.) B. C. KHANDURI (GARHWAL<\/a>):\u00a0 Then why do you not repeal the Bill?\u00a0 You are having unlimited number of amendments.\u00a0 Why do you not repeal it and let it be done with it?\u00a0 How many times will you bring like this?\u00a0 Why do you not repeal the Bill?\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KINJARAPU YERRANNAIDU <\/a>:\u00a0 I want to respond to our Parliamentary Affairs Minister.\u00a0 You have included all the trusts and everything, what about the local bodies?\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions)\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI SURAVARAM SUDHAKAR REDDY :\u00a0 Sir, I rise to support the Bill introduced by the hon. Law Minister but, to be frank, we are not happy with the way the Bill is introduced.\u00a0 But, the reasons are totally different from the friends of the BJP and from the Right.\u00a0 Sir, 52 years back in 1954, this type of discussion had taken place in this House and the then hon. Speaker, Shri Mavalankar had appointed a Committee which has been referred by the earlier speakers \u2013 Dr. Bhargava Committee.\u00a0 That Committee recommended a comprehensive Bill to be brought.\u00a0 Unfortunately, a comprehensive Bill has not come and even this Bill, I believe, is an ad hoc arrangement instead of a comprehensive Bill. There are all sorts of arguments regarding the disqualification for the membership issue. \u00a0The entire nation is today discussing on this issue and some Members are saying that, just because this type of Bill is introduced, repeal the Article 102 of the Constitution.\u00a0 I would like to read what exactly the Article 102 is.\u00a0 It is about disqualification for membership.\u00a0 It says:\n<\/p>\n
\u201c(1)\u00a0 A person shall be disqualified for being chosen as, and for being, a member of either House of Parliament \u2013  <\/p>\n
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It is exactly in the same clause.\u00a0 The exemption is given which should be declared, which will not come under this law.\u00a0 So, I do not understand that if this law is enacted, why the whole Article should go.\u00a0 I do not think it is against the spirit of the Constitution or against the clause but the thing is that this definition on the question of disqualification is very vague.\u00a0 It may be very difficult to define.\u00a0 That is why various types of interpretations have come.\u00a0 But a time has come now that the Parliament should take it up more seriously and define what is an office of profit.\u00a0 There are several occasions where Members of Parliament will be asked to take up different type of responsibilities.\u00a0 Unfortunately, when this discussion is taking place, various types of interpretations and, particularly, personalized politics are coming here.\u00a0 For example, the National Advisory Council is being taken as a target. It is not because of the National Advisory Council but because Shrimati Sonia Gandhi is holding that post.\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI <\/a>:\u00a0 Sir, it is 4 o\u2019 clock now.\u00a0 On behalf of the Government, may I propose to the House that the 193 Motion can be deferred till the disposal of the Bill?\n<\/p>\n
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SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS<\/a>:\u00a0 Yes, Sir.\u00a0 \u00a0\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI SURAVARAM SUDHAKAR REDDY <\/a>: Sir, the post of the Chairman of the National Advisory Commission is not very lucrative. The National Advisory Commission has been constituted to supervise the implementation of the Common Minimum Programme and I do not understand why that should not be accepted.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There are several other posts also. But it is true that since several hon. Members of Parliament are holding some of these posts, all these exemptions have been brought now. But the Parliament should enact a very clear legislation as to what are the posts that are to be disqualified, instead of adding some posts, which are occupied by Members of Parliament, to the list of exemptions every now and then. This is not the proper way.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I would appeal to my friends in the BJP and the NDA not to look at this whole issue in a sadistic way in order to target a particular Member and to see that some Members resign. This type of a legislation has become necessary because there is a danger that more than 45 Members of Parliament might be disqualified. Our friends in the NDA say that let them be disqualified. Can we take such an approach? We cannot take such an approach because this will create a lot of confusion. As there is no clear definition of the term \u2018office of profit, we need such a law immediately.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, I would like to request the Government that they should seriously consider all the suggestions made by different political parties. The Left Parties have suggested that a Committee should be appointed to go into the issue of disqualification and the Committee should give a clear definition of the term \u2018office of profit\u2019. This Committee should be set up in the near future and this should not be postponed. A Joint Committee on Office of Profit is already existing. But a Committee consisting of all the leaders of different political parties represented in Parliament should be constituted to discuss this issue and suggest a comprehensive Bill that should be introduced for this purpose. We have the experience of various other Parliaments also on this issue and different Parliaments have different provisions in this regard.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I would like to refer to the Report of the Bhargava Committee which suggested that various matters connected with disqualification of Members should be studied and recommendations should be made in order to enable the Government to come up with a comprehensive legislation before the Parliament. The Committee, which is to be created, should collect all the relevant data and make suggestions as to how the matter should be dealt with. Unfortunately that has not been done.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Secondly, it is not only the question of office of profit, but there are other issues like resignation from the House and other things. There are some Parliaments in the world which have more experience in democracy like Great Britain, France and other countries. In the British Parliament, a Member cannot resign. He will only be disqualified. If a Member resigns, he cannot contest again and come back to Parliament. We have to discuss all these things. In our country also, we have gained a lot of experience in the last 54 years since the time of the First Lok Sabha. So, it is necessary that we should go into all these aspects.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, while I support this Bill, I would like to suggest to the hon. Minister that he should come back to Parliament with a comprehensive Bill on this subject, after a Committee consisting of leaders of all political parties study and make recommendations. With these words, I support this Bill.\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>(BALASORE<\/a>): Sir, I rise to oppose The Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment Bill 2006.\u00a0 I am not against any person per se; I am against the Bill itself.\u00a0 I am against this West Bengal-centric Bill.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 My first point is this.\u00a0 The Present Home Minister of this country, who is the ex-Speaker of Lok Sabha, has time and again on the floor of this House said that all the Bills originating from this House should go to the Standing Committee excepting those Bills which are dealing with grammatical or typographical error.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, my point is this.\u00a0 In this Bill, the office which the Speaker of this House is holding in West Bengal is also being brought in.\u00a0 Is it not required that this Bill should be sent to the Standing Committee for discussion?\u00a0\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Just take an example.\u00a0 Kindly see serial no. 8 in this Bill.\u00a0 The Sriniketan Santiniketan Development Authority, a body constituted under the West Bengal Town and Country (Planning and Development) Act, 1979 (West Bengal Act No. 13 of 1979) has been exempted from being an Office of Profit.\u00a0 I am not going to explain anything else.\u00a0 But my appeal is that the Speaker should send this Bill to the Standing Committee for evaluation, for examination because his name is also brought into that. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI AJOY CHAKRABORTY <\/a>(BASIRHAT<\/a>): My colleague has suggested for a Committee.\u00a0 He said that an All-Party Committee should be constituted to examine it.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: My second point is this.\u00a0 All the time, the hon. Members from the Left have been specifically harping on one point that there is no clear definition of Office of Profit.\u00a0 The hon. Law Minister is an eminent lawyer of this country.\u00a0 Even he accused the Leader of the Opposition, Shri Advani by saying that he does not know the rules.\u00a0 Before some time he mentioned like this.\u00a0 He knows it pretty well \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
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THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): We never mentioned about the Speaker but you are committing another unreasonable precedent in the House by commenting on the Speaker.\u00a0 Has it ever happened that a Member made a comment on the Speaker?\u00a0 I have never said anything unethical. But this is the first time in my long parliamentary career, a Speaker of the House has been accused by a Member. That is the new thing you are opening. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u091c\u0941\u090f\u0932 \u0913\u0930\u093e\u092e <\/a>(\u0938\u0941\u0928\u094d\u0926\u0930\u0917\u0922\u093c<\/a>) : \u0939\u092e \u0932\u094b\u0917 \u0916\u0941\u0932 \u0915\u0930 \u092c\u094b\u0932\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947\u0964\u2026( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>: This is what I said about your leader also. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: Sir, I am not accusing the hon. Speaker. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u0906\u092a \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0915\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0930\u0939\u093f\u090f\u0964\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN\u00a0 <\/a>: Sir, I am not accusing the Speaker.\u00a0 My only point is that the Government itself have mentioned the name of an institution and they say that it should be exempted.\u00a0 What does it mean?\u00a0 That means, in all probability it is in the Office of Profit.\u00a0 The Government itself have brought this and the Opposition has not brought this.\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0 \u0906\u092a \u0906\u0917\u0947 \u092c\u094b\u0932\u093f\u090f, \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0915\u0939\u093f\u090f\u0964\n<\/p>\n
SHRI KHARABELA SWAIN <\/a>: Secondly, all the time the hon. Members from the Left, specifically Shri Basu Deb Acharia and Shri Sudhakar Reddy mentioned that there is no clear definition of Office of Profit.\u00a0 The hon. Law Minister knows it pretty well that there is no law anywhere in the world which is inflexible, which has been made once and it has remained so.\u00a0 All the time, the law and the rules are an evolutionary process.\u00a0 It is an evolutionary process through conventions, through judicial pronouncements, and it keeps on changing.\u00a0 So, the founding fathers of our Constitution could not have foreseen about 58 years ago that they would make such a law which would continue and which would be sustainable for all time to come.\u00a0 It would not have been possible.\u00a0 That is why, they constituted a Committee called \u2018Joint Committee on Office of Profit\u2019.\u00a0 I was a member of that Committee in the 13th Lok Sabha for four years.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Chairman, Sir, when you spoke from here, you mentioned that in April 1954, this Committee under the chairmanship of Pandit Thakurdas Bhargava was constituted.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What was the necessity of that Committee? What was the purpose of that Committee? The purpose of that Committee was that they would define which post constitutes office of profit and which post does not constitute office of profit. That was the purpose.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I will bring another very important point here. This very Committee on Office of Profit decided on 15th July 1988 that all the Ministries of the Government of India and the State Governments might be asked to obtain prior approval of the Speaker of the Lok Sabha or the Chairman of Rajya Sabha, as the case may be, before nominating any MP to any Government or Committee or body unless the Act under which such Committee or body has been set up provides for appointment of an MP from incurring disqualification by the provisions of the relevant Act itself.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 As you know pretty well, because you are a very senior Member, that whenever we are made a Director, a Member, a Chairman of any Committee in the State Government, these are being referred to the Committee on Office of Profit which clears whether it constitutes an office of profit or not.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 My point is about these 40 people about whom it has been mentioned in the Statement of Objects and Reasons. The Government is considering this because their membership will go. Here my question to the hon. Law Minister is this. Why did those people not refer their case to the Office of Profit Committee? Do you mean to say that they will say that they did not know the rule? Is ignorance of law an excuse? They could have referred to it and the Joint Committee on Office\u00a0 and asked\u00a0 whether it constitutes an office of profit . They did not do that and I charge that they did it deliberately.\u00a0 They knew that if they refer it to the Committee, the Committee would say no, this is an office of profit and you cannot hold it.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We are being elected as MLAs and MPs. My point is this. Is it not sufficient? What more do you want? How many people in this country have the good fortune of coming and sitting in this House? Is it not sufficient? Still, you require Ministership. If not Ministership, then you require Chairman of any Board. If not,\u00a0 then something else is required. Is it not so? \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, please give me two or three minutes\u2019 more time.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This Bill is against all the canons of morality. It is against all the canons of morality and it is against the Constitution itself. It is against ethics and everything. I will tell the hon. Members of the Left that when they were accusing the BJP at the time of disqualifying those Members who took bribe for asking questions, it is the leader of the Leftist Party, the CPM, who was accusing that it is the BJP which is having the most number of Members who are getting disqualified. I am asking them this question. Let them ask themselves what sort of backdoor business they are making. What sort of backdoor business are they making just to protect their own interests? \u2026 (Interruptions) This is only the question of getting the plum posts. Just to have those plum posts, the so-called Leftists, who say that they are the greatest moralists in the world, and who are having 17 such Members here, are doing this.\n<\/p>\n
My last point is that let this case be referred to the Election Commission.\u00a0 If they say that all these posts actually constitute office of profit then and these Members should be disqualified, let them go to the people.\u00a0\u00a0 Let them face the by-election, because in a democracy there is nothing better than facing the election.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The hon. Leader of the Congress Party, by her great renunciation, showed the way.\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions) They are supporting the Congress Party.\u00a0 They should follow the principle adopted by great Shrimati Sonia Gandhi who also won the by-election.\u00a0 They can also do the same thing.\u00a0 Let them do that.\u00a0\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions)\u00a0 It is equally applicable to them not only to you. \u2026 (Interruptions)\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So, Sir, my appeal to you is that either this Bill should be sent to the Standing Committee for examination or else all these Members should resign.\u00a0 They should go to the people and face the election.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, with these few words, I conclude.\n<\/p>\n
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MR. CHAIRMAN <\/a>: Shri K.S. Rao.\u00a0 Please conclude within five minutes.\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI K.S. RAO <\/a>(ELURU<\/a>): Yes Sir.\u00a0 But,\u00a0 first of all, please bring the House into order. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I rise to support the Bill.\u00a0\u00a0 I heard the objections raised for introduction of the Bill by the hon. Leader of the Opposition, Shri L.K. Advani.\u00a0 I was also present on the day when the House was adjourned sine die.\u00a0\u00a0 The ferociousness\u00a0 and the speed with which the Opposition Leader had come that day and told the entire House that `the ruling UPA Government is trying to adjourn the House sine die with a view to protect the membership of Shrimati Sonia Gandhi, our leader\u2019 was visible then.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That is visible.\u00a0 He directly expressed.\u00a0 He also expressed that he heard that there was a rumour going on that the Government was trying to bring an ordinance to protect her.\u00a0\u00a0 So, the entire concentration of the Leader of the Opposition and the Members of the Opposition at that time, as I found, was only on her that she should lose her seat. \u00a0\u00a0The very next day, when she resigned her membership, the entire thing had cooled down. \u2026 (Interruptions)\u00a0\u00a0 We kept quiet very silent.\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions) I was\u00a0 very silent when you spoke. \u2026 (Interruptions)\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
If that was the view, if it were to be to protect her own membership, she should not have resigned.\u00a0\u00a0 Obviously, it was with an intention that this is going to be a crisis, that more number of Members of Parliament are going to lose their seats on this issue, maybe that the Government has thought to bring some amendment or to allow a legislation or ordinance.\u00a0\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, when Shri Jaswant Singh, the Leader of the Opposition in the Rajya Sabha, was asked to give the opinion of the BJP, he did not give any clear idea.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 He did not say that `we are opposed to it or we are in favour of it\u2019. That means, they are neither this way nor that way.\u00a0\u00a0 Obviously, as one of our hon. Members was telling, their entire concentration was only on Shrimati Sonia Gandhi because they feel that she has become a great leader or a block for them to come into power.\u00a0 If she were not to be a Member here or a Leader of this Party, then they have got a hope that they can come back to power one day or the other.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I would have been very happy had they discussed about the issues of the poor, farmers, drinking water, education or healthcare to the poor who are below the poverty line or elimination of poverty etc. <\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At any time we see, the concentration was only on her and not on these issues. I heard respectable Member, Shrimati Maneka Gandhi speaking on this very eloquently in a very good language. She was telling that when she was Chairperson of the Animal Welfare Board, some of the pharmaceutical companies were doing wrong things in the laboratories. When she was highlighting all these things, she said, they brought pressure to see that she is out of the post of Chairperson of the Animal Welfare Board. When the then Minister of Environment, Shri T.R. Baalu felt that the office that she was holding was an office of profit, which she cannot hold both as Member of this House as well as that office, she preferred to resign the post of Chairperson of the Animal Welfare Board and not the membership of Parliament. That means she was ready to sacrifice the interests of the animals which is detrimental at the instance of the pharmaceutical companies. This is very clear. This is one.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Secondly, even at that time, this rule of office of profit was there on which she would have been disqualified at that time. Because the NDA Government was there, she could be saved and nobody spoke about it. She also says very categorically \u2013 \u201cSir, it was decided to remove me; but how to do that without incurring my wrath as a member of the NDA\u201d. It was not following the legislation. It was not following the ethics or norms. It was the power at which you are and so she says \u2013 \u201cI cannot be removed like this because I am a Member of the NDA\u201d. So, Shri T.R. Baalu, who was then the Minister of Environment notified that that post was an office of profit after 42 years of its existence. Shrimati Maneka Gandhi was telling this now, today.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It may be because she thinks that she wants to take against Shrimati Sonia Gandhi or she is very much interested to see that Shrimati Sonia Gandhi should lose the seat, today she says about the ethics, about the office of profit and why should there be a legislation and all that. Did she say so at that time when she was holding two posts? Here is Shrimati Sonia Gandhi who resigned the membership. Shrimati Maneka Gandhi did not resign the membership of this House. She resigned, on the contrary, from the other post.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 As you were telling, Sir, when you were speaking from here, even in the case of Shrimati Jaya Bachchan, we never think that Shrimati Jaya Bachchan was holding the second post to earn money or to make benefit out of it. But because, under the legislation, as somebody has complained, the concerned organisation has given a verdict that she should leave the membership. But, none of us were interested. None of us can say that she was holding that post for making money out of it or out of any personal interest. Having realised, because of the incident, the attention of the entire country was caught that so many people are there in a similar situation. When it was spreading to so many people, it is the duty of this House to bring a legislation. We cannot leave it like that.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No legislation, when it was made initially, was foolproof. There may be hundred mistakes in them. As time passes, as conditions change we amend those things. Shri K. Yerrannaidu was telling that it was amended five times. Why should anybody oppose this Bill? Is it detrimental or is it against the dignity of the House? If it were to be against the dignity of the House, how was it made in 1959? In 1959 this Act was made when eminent people were there. When it was not opposed at that time why should it be opposed now? Why should the Members think that it is against the dignity of the House?\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I can understand it. Many of the Members can propose many other posts, offices of profit which can be included in it under exemption. But it cannot be that simply because today Shrimati Sonia Gandhi was there in their mind that they can abuse or they can say it or attribute motives or make allegations and everything on this Bill.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Shrimati Maneka Gandhi was also telling and I want to quote. Now hon. Member Shrimati Maneka Gandhi says that \u201cIf you were to be a Member of Parliament, you have got full work here. So, there is no need to hold a second assignment.\u201d Then, why did she hold the assignment of the Chairman of the Animal Welfare Board? I do not attribute motives on her. She must have had an interest in the animal welfare and because she has got not only interest but she has got the capacity, she was holding that assignment.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There is nothing to find fault with it. Similarly, many of the Members might be experts in some areas, apart from being a Member. So, they are holding other posts also. I do not think that there is anything wrong in it. They should hold other offices with a fair intention that they should not make money by that position. So, we have brought this legislation. If a Member wanted to make profit, certainly there are other ways to condemn him. When some Members had taken money and it was proved beyond doubt, the other day this House had taken action and condemned their actions. In a similar way, if some Member was misusing the second position, you may condemn him.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It is very surprising that hon. Member has said \u201cDoes the Government wish to give an additional public image to those of their MPs who could not be accommodated in the Ministries but need a car and office?\u201d Will the Members be preferring to hold second office simply for the sake of car, office or house? She attributes motive that Shrimati Sonia Gandhi was holding the office of National Advisory Council for the sake of office, for the sake of a car. These things are so petty. The nation can judge what amount of difference is there between her and Shrimati Sonia Gandhi. She has never said anything about Shrimati Maneka Gandhi. Whatever applies to Shrimati Sonia Gandhi must be applied to me and to her also. She forgets all those things. Criticising others is easy, but when it comes to us, then it is known to everybody.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It is true that this Bill may not be comprehensive and may not be totally foolproof. Tomorrow, we may find some more assignments to be exempted. So, we can find a way where all such things will not be there. So, I wish the hon. Minister to go ahead with Bill and get this Bill passed. If any of the Member were to have any genuine areas which are also to be exempted, they can be included. We have already seen an amendment brought by the hon. Minister. Some more offices can be added. Otherwise, today we can pass the Bill and later, we can come with amendments. It is not a crime to bring amendments to an Act.\n<\/p>\n
With a fair mind, if any Member were to think in this manner, not targeting any particular individual, it can be done. This House is not to settle individual scores and personal enmity. So, it is with the intention that the nation should be protected, this House should be protected that this Bill has been brought. If so many Members lose their seats, what is the amount that would have to be spent for holding elections? For ten days, she has been telling that the House was convened now only because of this. This House should have been convened otherwise also. It was there earlier also. This is not a new proposition except that the House was adjournedsine die instead of getting adjourned.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 With these few words, I request the hon. Members sitting in the House to think with a broader mind and not to make politics as a target or individual as a target and exploit the opportunity.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Now Shri Varkala Radhakrishnan will speak. Please conclude your speech in five minutes.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>(CHIRAYINKIL<\/a>): Sir, our Law Minister is a very efficient and experienced person, but I regret to say that this UPA Government is not having a priority in the matter of legislative business. Now, it is evident from the way in which this Bill has been brought. I recall that as early as March 17, 2006, I had made a Special Mention on the floor of this House asking the Government to bring in some amendments to the Office of Profit Act, 1959 because the controversy was not a new thing. The ruling of the Supreme Court also created such a situation. So, in the Special Mention, I had categorically stated that since there was a controversy regarding the term \u2018Office of Profit\u2019, it was better and safe for the Government to bring in a legislation immediately. It is available there in the records.\n<\/p>\n
I also mentioned that the matter has become evident after the disqualification of Shrimati Jaya Bachchan. I brought it out immediately after this happened. But there was no response from the Government. Nobody was responding. If you had responded to it, then this situation could have been prevented.\n<\/p>\n
What is the situation now? I will tell you about it. I am reading from the Statement of Objects and Reasons attached to the Bill. It is stated that :\n<\/p>\n
\u201c\u2026 If this state of affairs is allowed to continue \u2026\u00a0 \u201d <\/p>\n
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We all will remember that the House was adjourned sine die under mysterious circumstances. I am saying this because it was already decided that we would meet again for a second time, and even the business to be transacted was designed. But all of a sudden the Government asked for adjournment sine die, and we adjourned sine die. The Government was under the impression of bringing in an Ordinance, and I believe that for this purpose the House was adjourned. But Shrimati Sonia Gandhi resigned immediately after adjournment of the House sine die. Therefore, the necessity of issuing an Ordinance did not arise. This is the position with regard to this issue.\n<\/p>\n
In the Statement of Objects and Reasons, it is stated that there are about 40 Members in both the Houses of Parliament who are likely to lose their seats. It is further stated here that :\n<\/p>\n
\u201c\u2026 likely vacation of seats in both the Houses of Parliament, which will necessitate the holding of bye-elections to fill up the resultant vacancies\u2026\u201d <\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It means that the bye-elections would be a wasteful expenditure, and to prevent the wasteful expenditure this is being done. It is stated that :\n<\/p>\n
\u201c\u2026This will be a wasteful expenditure and will enforce unnecessary financial burden upon the nation\u2026\u201d <\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It would mean that the Government is admitting that Shrimati Sonia Gandhi\u2019s resignation, and the resultant bye-election is also a wasteful expenditure. If you had acted properly, then Shrimati Sonia Gandhi\u2019s resignation could have been prevented. But she resigned from Lok Sabha. Therefore, according to the Objects and Reasons, it is crystal clear that Shrimati Sonia Gandhi\u2019s bye-election is a wasteful expenditure. It is written there, and it is not in my own words. It is written in the Statement of Objects and Reasons that Shrimati Sonia Gandhi\u2019s bye-election is a wasteful expenditure. I am saying this because bye-election for 40 people is a wasteful expenditure, and Shrimati Sonia Gandhi is included among them and her bye-election is also a wasteful expenditure. This is made crystal clear from the Statement of Objects and Reasons. This is how we are doing things.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What has happened because of this Bill? We do not have a proper discussion on this Bill. I am saying this because discussion includes discussion in the Standing Committee. When a Bill is under legislative scrutiny there will be elaborate discussions in the Standing Committees, and there will be limited time available for a short discussion on the floor of the House itself. Clause by Clause consideration, and a detailed discussion will only take place in the Standing Committees, and that process is prevented in this case.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We have two bitter experiences in this Session. Firstly, we all are quite aware about demolitions in Delhi. It is a process going on for long. But the Government became vigilant immediately after political pressure came for it, and they brought a Bill. They brought a Bill and got it passed on the same day. The introduction of the Bill was on the same day; Clause by Clause consideration was on the same day; and final passing of the Bill was also on the same day. It is quite unprecedented, and not a healthy parliamentary practice.\n<\/p>\n
In this case also the same practice is being repeated. I am saying this because we are not getting an opportunity to discuss it in the Committee. Is this the way Parliamentary practices are followed? Is this the way you are holding the Session?\n<\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not only that, there were five Assembly elections. For that purpose, what did the Government do? All the Demands for Grants were guillotined and finally passed preventing legislative scrutiny by the respective Standing Committees. It could have been prevented, if the Government was conscious enough, by bringing a Vote-on-Account. That has not happened.\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN <\/a>: Now, you have to conclude your speech.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>: Now, I come to the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
MR. CHAIRMAN<\/a>: Now, you have to conclude your speech.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VARKALA RADHAKRISHNAN <\/a>: I now come to the Bill. The Bill, I must say, is patently defective. I am in a dilemma whether to support the Bill or not, knowing it to be practically difficult. You see, there is a list here. There are many States where the same Corporation exists, but it has been left out. It is patently discriminatory.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It is a concurrent subject. When you accept some office or a particular society, all people must be exempted. I think, in some States, particularly in West Bengal, almost all have been accepted, but very few in other States. That is not correct, and it is highly discriminatory. The Bill will not stand to scrutiny. The proper course would have been to give the powers of delegation to State Assemblies, to State MLAs, so that the States could do it. That is being done today. Why should you give a list?\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Parliament will have to consider the disqualification question of accepting office of profit by this House, but the Legislative Assemblies should decide what should be the office of profit in their respective States. Instead of doing that, you have enumerated a list of offices, mostly in West Bengal, and a few in some other States. This is highly discriminatory.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not only that, I have the Bill with me. Nowhere the \u2018office of profit\u2019 has been defined. It must be defined. So, I suggest that a special committee should be appointed giving representation to all the political parties, and that committee should go into the details and make a clear definition regarding office of profit. That is the only way we can do that.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not only that, retrospective effect is being given from 4th July, 1959, after a gap of 46 years. Subsequently, so many legislations have taken place, but nowhere it has given retrospective effect. The retrospective effect that is being given is unheard of, which looks very awkward and unfair.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 On these conditions, I would request the Government to ponder over bringing a new law to make the situation more clear and definite.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In parliamentary democracy, for maintaining parliamentary practice and parliamentary integrity, ultimately, I support the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BIKRAM KESHARI DEO <\/a>(KALAHANDI<\/a>): Sir, at the outset, I oppose the Bill. The reason for my opposing this Bill is that in the earlier part of the day, my leader, Shri Lal Krishna Advani, mentioned that he had no objection regarding other parts of the Bill, but he was only concerned with clause 2 of the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Amendment Bill, 2006. The reason is the extra constitutional authority that has been created. This type of legislation requires a constitutional amendment with two-thirds of the House voting for it and getting a change in the Constitution. This thing has been taken very lightly. This Bill shows and proves that the ruling party is acting to protect some people from the ambit of office of profit and to keep their positions intact. This clearly warranted a Constitutional Amendment. It would have been appropriate if a Constitutional Amendment had been made.\n<\/p>\n
Hon. Member Kishore Chandra Deo, who spoke first in this debate, said that the post of Chairperson of the National Advisory Council was that of a facilitator for the ruling coalition. \u2018Facilitator\u2019 in other words means \u2018fixer\u2019. The ruling coalition needed a fixer because the constituent parties do not have commonality of views on any issue.\n<\/p>\n
CPI(M) has won the recent election in West Bengal. The Chief Minister goes and tells people that they are anti-reform and anti-globalistation. He has gone on record saying that because of reforms the people of Bengal have voted for them. I do not know how they would digest this. Eventually, the Left also has taken to the path of globalisation.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The post of Chairperson of the National Advisory Council constituted by the Government was just meant to protect a person. In the Statement of Objects and Reasons of this Bill it has been stated that unwanted expenditure would have taken place if re-elections were held. I am quite astonished to see this. If the Government wanted its party leader Shrimati Sonia Gandhi to head the UPA, it could have given her the status of a Minister Without Portfolio.\n<\/p>\n
As per our Constitution, a Member of either Rajya Sabha or Lok Sabha only can become a Minister. Why do they not adopt the American way? In America, they invite experts to head various Ministries. For example, the Secretary of State for Defence, Secretary of State for Transport, etc. What pattern is the Government of India trying to follow? Is it trying to ape the Americans? What qualification has the Chairperson of the National Advisory Council got to occupy that post?\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u0906\u092a\u0915\u093e \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0938\u092e\u093e\u092a\u094d\u0924 \u0939\u094b \u091a\u0941\u0915\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BIKRAM KESHARI DEO <\/a>: Mr. Chairman, I oppose Clause 2 of this Bill while I support the rest of the Bill. I have given an amendment.\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u090f\u092e\u0947\u0928\u094d\u0921\u092e\u0947\u0928\u094d\u091f \u092c\u093e\u0926 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0906\u0924\u0947 \u0930\u0939\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947\u0964\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BIKRAM KESHARI DEO <\/a>: Thank you.\n<\/p>\n
SHRIMATI JAYAPRADA <\/a>(RAMPUR<\/a>): Sir, I have given notice to speak on this Bill.\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0 \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0938\u092e\u093e\u092a\u094d\u0924 \u0939\u094b \u091a\u0941\u0915\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964 \u0905\u092c \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f \u091c\u0935\u093e\u092c \u0926\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947\u0964\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ <\/a>: Sir, I am very grateful to all the hon. Members who have spoken on this Bill. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRIMATI JAYAPRADA\u00a0 <\/a>: Sir, I have given notice.\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0938\u092e\u093e\u092a\u094d\u0924 \u0939\u094b \u091a\u0941\u0915\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI VIJAYENDRA PAL SINGH <\/a>: Sir, the Session has been called only to pass this Bill. Why only two hours for this? We want to raise important issues. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u0905\u092c \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0939\u094b \u0938\u0915\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964 \u0906\u092a\u0915\u0940 \u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u091f\u0940 \u0915\u0947 \u092e\u093e\u0928\u0928\u0940\u092f \u0938\u0926\u0938\u094d\u092f \u090f\u0932\u094b\u091f\u093f\u0921 \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0938\u0947 \u0905\u0927\u093f\u0915 \u092c\u094b\u0932 \u091a\u0941\u0915\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964 \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u091c\u0940 \u0906\u092a \u0905\u092a\u0928\u093e \u092d\u093e\u0937\u0923 \u091c\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u0930\u0916\u093f\u090f\u0964\n<\/p>\n
…( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>: Some hon. Members have said that there should have been a comprehensive review of this Bill. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0935\u093f\u091c\u092f\u0947\u0928\u094d\u0926\u094d\u0930 \u092a\u093e\u0932 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 <\/a>: \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f, \u0907\u0938\u0940 \u092c\u093f\u0932 \u0915\u0947 \u0932\u093f\u090f \u092f\u0939 \u0938\u0948\u0936\u0928 \u092c\u0941\u0932\u093e\u092f\u093e \u0917\u092f\u093e \u0939\u0948 \u0914\u0930 \u0939\u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0939\u0940 \u0907\u0938 \u092a\u0930 \u092c\u094b\u0932\u0928\u0947 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0926\u093f\u092f\u093e \u091c\u093e \u0930\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964 \u0939\u092e \u0907\u0938 \u092c\u093f\u0932 \u092a\u0930 \u092c\u094b\u0932\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902 \u0924\u0925\u093e \u0907\u0938\u0915\u0947 \u0932\u093f\u090f \u0926\u094b \u0918\u0923\u094d\u091f\u0947 \u0914\u0930 \u092c\u0948\u0920 \u0938\u0915\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964\u2026( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u0915\u0947\u0935\u0932 \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u091c\u0940 \u0915\u093e \u0939\u0940 \u092d\u093e\u0937\u0923 \u0930\u093f\u0915\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0921 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0917\u093e \u0914\u0930 \u0915\u0941\u091b \u092d\u0940 \u0930\u093f\u0915\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0921 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0917\u093e\u0964\n<\/p>\n
\u2026( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\u00a0 *  <\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u0906\u092a\u0915\u0940 \u0915\u094b\u0908 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0930\u093f\u0915\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0921 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u091c\u093e \u0930\u0939\u0940 \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
\u2026( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\u00a0 *  <\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>: What is required is to go into the Bill itself. It is a very limited measure to prevent from disqualification certain Members of Parliament whose occupying some offices is likely to disqualify them \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
 * Not Recorded.\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0 \u0906\u092a\u0915\u093e \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0938\u092e\u093e\u092a\u094d\u0924 \u0939\u094b \u0917\u092f\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ <\/a>: Artcile 102 of the Constitution provides that a person shall be disqualified from being chosen as, and for being, a Member of either House of Parliament and if he holds any office of profit under the Government of India. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0 \u0906\u092a\u0915\u0940 \u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u091f\u0940 \u0915\u093e \u0938\u092e\u092f \u091c\u093f\u0924\u0928\u093e \u090f\u0932\u093e\u091f \u0925\u093e, \u0909\u0938\u0938\u0947 \u0905\u0927\u093f\u0915 \u092c\u094b\u0932 \u091a\u0941\u0915\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964\n<\/p>\n
…( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>: I cannot hear what you are saying. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u0905\u092c \u0906\u092a\u0915\u094b \u0914\u0930 \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0926\u093f\u092f\u093e \u091c\u093e \u0938\u0915\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
…( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0 \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u091c\u0940 \u0906\u092a \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0915\u0939\u093f\u090f\u0964 \u0909\u0928\u0915\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0930\u093f\u0915\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0921 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u091c\u093e \u0930\u0939\u0940 \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
…( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0\u00a0 \u0906\u092a\u0915\u093e \u0938\u092e\u092f \u0939\u094b \u0917\u092f\u093e\u0964 \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u091c\u0940 \u0906\u092a \u092c\u094b\u0932\u093f\u090f, \u0915\u0947\u0935\u0932 \u0906\u092a\u0915\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0930\u093f\u0915\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0921 \u0939\u094b \u0930\u0939\u0940 \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
…( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\n<\/p>\n
\u0938\u092d\u093e\u092a\u0924\u093f \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0 \u0906\u092a \u092c\u0948\u0920 \u091c\u093e\u0907\u090f\u0964\n<\/p>\n
…( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>: I do not think this is the proper way to debate. I only want to say a few things for the benefit of the House.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Firstly, the Leader of the House, Shri Advani raised some points. When I replied, he was not in the House.\u00a0 He is a very senior Member. I thought that when he raised an objection about the introduction of the Bill, he would make a constitutional point and a parliamentary point. Only when Parliament lacks competence, then we can say that this cannot be introduced.\u00a0 But unfortunately they raised extraneous matters. Even now, the mood on this side seems to be that let there be no political debate in the House.\u00a0 This is not the way things can be discussed.\u00a0 Even the Leader of the Opposition will realise that when a Leader of the Opposition is appointed under the Statute, he or she has to be exempted under this law.\u00a0 All the Chief Whips who are appointed, they are also to be exempted under this law.\u00a0 In the case of post of Chairmen of various Commissions, namely National Commission on Scheduled Castes, National Commission on Minority, if a Member of Parliament holds the office of Chairman, they are also exempted under this very law.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now, with your permission, I would give the constitutional background of Article 102.\u00a0 The World over, even in the United Kingdom – it was referred –\u00a0 they do not have a written Constitution.\u00a0 So, there, it is a convention.\u00a0 Whenever Parliament wants to bar an office of profit, they, by Resolution of Parliament add it as a disqualification. \u2026 (Interruptions) You please listen.\u00a0 Have some etiquette in the House.\u00a0 It is no debate.\u00a0 We can discuss these matters.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What they do is, they go on adding\u00a0 offices which disqualifies a Member.\u00a0 This is one way of doing this.\u00a0 The Leader of the Opposition knows that after the Forty-Second Amendment in Mrs. Gandhi\u2019s time, this method was adopted and pursuant to the long research made in this by eminent Parliamentarians, they could say that, let us accept the British system in which there is no list of such disqualifications.\u00a0 They\u00a0 only disqualify by Resolution of Parliament.\u00a0 But in Morarji Bhai\u2019s Government, this was reversed by the Forty-Fourth Amendment, and they said, no.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
I have heard some statements from the Leader of the Opposition.\u00a0 I hold him in very high esteem.\u00a0 We thought that, let us not tinker with the constitutional spirit.\u00a0 He himself perhaps wanted it that we should not tinker with it, and let us continue with the present dispensation.\u00a0 Many eminent legal luminaries, Attorney Generals and very important people have gone into this issue.\u00a0 They also have given this opinion that it is not possible to define Office of Profit.\u00a0 Having regard to the status of Legislature, Executive, it is not possible to lay down or precise definition of what could be an office of profit. The Supreme Court also in several decisions have given conflicting opinions. The latest one is Jaya Bacchan\u2019s case, which is altogether a different approach.\n<\/p>\n
 17.00 hrs. <\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So, I have to cater to the desires of the House, and I think, if the House feels sincerely that you want to amend\u00a0 article 102 of the Constitution,\u00a0 that can be very well done with the consensus of the House.\u00a0 It is your\u00a0 House; it is your power; and you can do that.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY <\/a>(PURI<\/a>): Withdraw it\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>: I do not like these kinds of\u00a0 interruptions when we talk well. This is where\u00a0 you should follow the parliamentary practice.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, if the House is serious and there is a unanimity of views, we can definitely revert to a better system.\u00a0 But today, after the research made by senior parliamentarians like Thakurdas Bhargava and others, this was thought to be a better way in which\u00a0 we are going ahead.\n<\/p>\n
Sir, this is a very small Bill.\u00a0 There are\u00a0 only five sections\u00a0 which have been dealth with in this Bill.\u00a0 Section 3 is the most relevant Section, which says that whenever any Member of Parliament or an eminent person is appointed to an office of profit, then he or she has to be exempted under this law.\u00a0 So, that is the point.\u00a0 When\u00a0 Shri Pranab Mukherjee\u00a0 was as the Deputy-Chairman, Planning Commission and he was to enter the Parliament House, I had to bring this Amendment, which nobody objected.\u00a0 Every Chief Whip is exempted; every Leader of the Opposition is exempted; every Chairman of a Commission is exempted. But I am very surprised to say that if our leader, Shrimati Sonia Gandhi is exempted from heading the National Advisory Council, they feel differently!\u00a0 That is where we feel greatly pained.\n<\/p>\n
Let us have respect for each other.\u00a0 If a leader of a very big party is appointed to a position, which is to advise some NGOs, what is wrong in it?\u00a0 There are 15 eminent NGOs working under the National Advisory\u00a0 Council giving a lot of inputs to the legisation, which practice was not invoked till this NAC was appointed. Times have changed.\u00a0 NGOs have a greater role. And, she was not drawing anything more than what a Member of Parliament gets.\u00a0 Somebody referred to her house.\u00a0 She has a house already allotted to her in her name, and she could draw the same salary as a Member of Parliament.\u00a0 There was nothing big she was getting out of it.\u00a0 Therefore, to allege that everything is being done in her interest or for her interest,\u00a0 is travesty of fact and far from truth.\n<\/p>\n
So, with great respect, Sir, I would submit that let us have a little tolerance for each other.\u00a0 I have never seen this kind of an intolerance in Parliament.\u00a0 We may have different views. We go to the polls with different views, and people give their verdict.\u00a0 I think, she rightly did, against the wishes of all of us;\u00a0 she went through her own introspection, and decided; contested and came back to the Lok Sabha.\u00a0 Let us not make an issue out of it.\n<\/p>\n
 17.03\u00a0 hrs.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair) <\/p>\n
Several eminent MPs are doing some public service in their own fields.\u00a0 Some hon. Members are doing such services in West Bengal also.\u00a0 Shanti Niketan is a very prestigious institution and if a Member of Parliament is giving time to serve Shanti Niketan, I think, he is doing service to the country. Why should there be an objection that it should be called an office of profit?\u00a0 Several eminent MPs, during their free time, do and work in their constituencies.\u00a0 Several Development Boards\u00a0 and other institutions are there.\u00a0 This is the approach that we should exempt them. I am sorry and I am greatly pained\u00a0 and I do not hold any partisan attitude. The day it was being thought\u00a0 after Jaya Bachchan\u2019 case\u00a0 — I have known here very well and intimately —\u00a0 if she had sought any help from us, we would have\u00a0 willingly helped\u00a0 her that she should not be debarred.\u00a0 But it is the Election Commission\u2019s litigation which was being fought by her, and when she got disqualified it became a big news.\u00a0 Thereafter, the whole process started seeing as to how many would be affected.\n<\/p>\n
Sir, I would remind this House that there is\u00a0 an endless list which is continuously flowing to me everyday.\u00a0 Every MP is scared now.\u00a0 Therefore, if an exercise has been undertaken, let us take it seriously.\u00a0 Why are you making a fun of it?\u00a0 All MPs should take it seriously and then decide it.\u00a0 I can frankly tell you that we are prepared for any discussion on this issue.\u00a0 But I am greatly pained by the attitude of the Bhartiya Janata Party.\u00a0 I talked to Sushmaji, I talked to Prof. V.K. Malhotra.\u00a0 Advaniji was not available, otherwise I would have talked to him also.\u00a0 It was all to get help from them.\u00a0 I am not doing it for saving me from disqualification.\u00a0 I am doing it for Members of Parliament of different political parties.\u00a0 I hold them all in very high esteem.\n<\/p>\n
Therefore, this is an exercise for public good and the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act is meant for this purpose.\u00a0 May I read one line from the Constitution?\u00a0 Article 102 itself says:\n<\/p>\n
\u201cAll offices of profit can be exempted by the Parliament.\u201d <\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Parliament has this competence and some people doubt whether the Parliament has got the competence or not.\u00a0\u00a0 This is where this partisan attitude does not do good for parliamentary debates.\u00a0 If this House decides unanimously, we could have the British system in India so that whenever you want to disqualify, you can bring a law or a resolution.\u00a0 It would be very well and this country would accept it.\u00a0 But it is this very Parliament which has said and some of the leaders who are still sitting in the Opposition were party to it that 42nd amendment is not good and that we rule it out by 44th amendment did that system away.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now there is a conflict of decisions in the courts and the Election Commission has interpreted it as the law stands.\u00a0 I am duty bound to bring this law before the House to protect all the Members across the board.\u00a0 It is not that I am doing it for my party.\u00a0 Let me tell you frankly, I will not name, the Members of Parliament\u2019s who is who here.\u00a0 But we have tried to cover the entire opposition and all other people.\u00a0 If some hon. Member of BJP suffers, he will suffer because of BJP\u2019s own attitude.\u00a0 You cannot blame us tomorrow.\u00a0 It is because you have not helped us.\u00a0 We have been going to your doors.\u00a0 How many leaders you want me to contact?\u00a0 I will again contact them.\u00a0 But this is lack of cooperation, consideration and lack of sincere desire to go into this kind of legislation.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Constitution permits this Parliament to legislate on this issue and this is a very important matter.\u00a0 A sensation is being created and said that the Government is bringing this and that.\u00a0 Sir, can any Minister bring an Ordinance unless the House is prorogued or at least one House is prorogued?\u00a0 A news was sent to the Press that tomorrow the Ordinance will come and heavens will fall.\u00a0 This is never done.\u00a0 I do not keep anything secret.\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0905\u0928\u0902\u0924 \u0917\u0902\u0917\u093e\u0930\u093e\u092e \u0917\u0940\u0924\u0947 <\/a>: \u0906\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u0939\u093e\u0909\u0938 \u0915\u094b \u0938\u093e\u0907\u0928-\u090f-\u0921\u093e\u0908 \u0915\u093f\u0938\u0932\u093f\u090f \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0925\u093e?\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>:\u00a0 After adjourning the House sine die, you have to prorogue the House.\u00a0 I presume you have at least this knowledge that without prorogation, you cannot have an Ordinance.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: Do you mean to say that this will also be applicable to Jayaji?\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>:\u00a0 Sir, nobody knew that Shrimati Jaya Bachchan\u2019s case was going on except her.\u00a0 It was pending with the Election Commission.\u00a0 There was certain election petition also.\u00a0 We have done justice to her also in this case.\u00a0 Whatever I could do to help her out, I have done.\u00a0 I have put her case also.\u00a0 So, there is no personal ill will or animosity or prejudice against anybody.\u00a0 But today I am surprised to see that there is a calculated attempt to stop Parliament from discussing such a serious issue.\u00a0 This is never done.\u00a0 Therefore, this House has the authority and competence to legislate.\u00a0 When this House has the competence to legislate and if we do not legislate, that will be the abdication of duty.\u00a0 Even if one Member of Parliament of either side is disqualified for lack of performance of duty, I will presume myself guilty.\u00a0 Therefore, I brought this Bill.\u00a0 I have been very anxious from day one.\u00a0 I have been phoning leaders after leaders and asking them if there is any hon. Member who needs to be exempted.\u00a0 An exhaustive list is there.\u00a0 In England, there are thousands of such exemptions.\u00a0 If you follow English precedents, they go on adding because whenever they entrust some responsibility to any Member of Parliament, they have to exempt him.\u00a0 Therefore, addition of more officers of profit is not something bad.\u00a0\n<\/p>\n
One issue was raised that the Members of Parliament should not be doctors and advocates.\u00a0 That view has also been raised and discussed in England before Noland Committee went into this whole thing.\u00a0 The Members of Parliament are not whole time employees.\u00a0 In one very important case, I argued for months and years and finally, I convinced the court that the Members of Parliament are nobody\u2019s servants.\u00a0 They are the most independent people.\u00a0 They are more independent than judges even because they speak openly for public and that is why they enjoy certain amenities and freedom under the Constitution.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Therefore, if you want Members of Parliament should be whole-timers, then you decide about their perks and salaries like as it is done in organisations where such provisions exist. Here, it is only parliamentary functions that are discharged by Members of Parliament. Otherwise, somebody is a farmer; somebody is a teacher; somebody is a doctor and somebody is a businessman and they are discharging their respective functions. I do not think we should bind them down totally. We should give them the freedom. Freedom of Parliament is one of the most important aspects of democracy. Any thought of putting fetters on this will not be appreciated in the larger interest of democracy. Therefore, we should all contribute our mite in building up healthy traditions that when Members of Parliament are asked to discharge certain functions, they should be free to do that and that is not for money. Nobody goes to these Trusts and Societies for money. There are certain prestigious Trusts and we have exempted them all. We have also exempted certain societies. There are certain institutions and corporations. Therefore, we had to bring this law. We had tried to be fair and much more fair than on any other occasion in the past. It is because we are all Members of Parliament. There is no partisan view. Once we are elected as Members of Parliament, we are Members of Parliament for the whole country. That is the approach\u2026 (Interruptions) Let me finish please. You can raise it later. There are many Members who have raised certain issues. I would like to address those issues.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, we have exempted, under this law, all trusts whether public or private. So, Members of Parliament should not bother if they are holding any position in any Trust, be it public or private. Similarly, we have exempted all Government bodies and members of Societies registered under Society Act or any other law which is in force at the time being. These are the two major things that have been proposed and a large number of Members of Parliament, who are doing some kind of public service, will benefit from these provisions in this legislation. Some people are running schools. They are registered societies. A lot of work has gone into it. This exemption table is only with regard to statutory and those which needs specifically to be exempted. There is no other way to deal with this problem.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, one issue was raised about dispensing with the rules. These are matters of procedure. The Chair is the final authority and if there is a consensus in the House, I am bound by it. This time was essentially kept because we could not deal with this problem then and now all these saving clauses are meant only with a view to achieving this objective for which this Bill is being brought forward. This is a very fair deal. The Government is bringing forward this Bill only to protect the interest of the hon. Members of this House who otherwise would be disqualified by the Election Commission. If any hon. Member has any suggestion, I have an open mind and we will constitute a Committee to go into those suggestions and the Joint Committee on Offices of Profit can also go into those suggestions. This is a never-ending procedure.\n<\/p>\n
The courts will go on handing out judgements. We are examining the latest one. We have tried to enact this law according to what had been laid down in the Jaya Bacchan case. There were two different views of the Supreme Court earlier. This is the latest one. We have covered the suggestions given by everybody. I am grateful to the hon. Members for their suggestions.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sir, before I conclude I would like to repeat that we do not have any ill-will against anybody. We have respect for leaders of all Parties, but unfortunately, it is our leader who is always under attack. Do people think that we have no commitment for our leader? If they will do like this, then we will also start doing this. We hold every leader in high esteem. Our leader has demonstrated a positive attitude. She has certain basic principles, ethical principles, moral values which are lacking in the other side.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER:\u00a0 The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u201cThat the Bill further to amend the Parliament (Prevention of Disqualification) Act, 1959, be taken into consideration.\u201d <\/p>\n
\u00a0 <\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>:\u00a0 The House may now take up clause by clause consideration of the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cThat clause 2 stand part of the Bill.\u201d <\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
Clause 2 was added to the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0  <\/p>\n
Clause 3\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Insertion of new Table <\/p>\n
Amendments made<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
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substitute \u201c13. The State Fisheries Development Corporation Limited,\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 West Bengal.\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (6) <\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0 for \u201c33. The Bihar State Religious Trust Board.\u201d.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0substitute \u201c33.\u00a0 The Bihar State Board of Religious Trust, a body\u00a0  <\/p>\n
constituted under the Bihar Hindu Religious Trust Act, 1950 (Bihar Act\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No. 1 of 1951).\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (7) <\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u201c46. The Dalit Sena, 12, Janpath, New Delhi.\n<\/p>\n
47.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Social Justice Trust, 12, Janpath, New Delhi.\n<\/p>\n
48.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Bahujan Foundation (Charitable Trust), Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh.\n<\/p>\n
49.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Bahujan Prerna Charitable Trust, Delhi.\n<\/p>\n
50.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Central Wakf Council, established under section 9 of the Wakf Act, 1995 (43 of 1995).\n<\/p>\n
51.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Nehru Memorial Museum and Library (NMML).\n<\/p>\n
52.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Jalianwala Bagh Memorial Trust.\n<\/p>\n
53.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Haj Committee of India constituted under section 3 of the Haj Committee Act, 2002 (35 of 2002).\n<\/p>\n
54.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The Mallickghat Phoolbazar Parichalan Committee.\n<\/p>\n
55.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0The West Bengal Fisheries Corporation Limited.\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (8) <\/p>\n
(Shri H.R. Bhardwaj) <\/p>\n
\u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u092a\u094d\u0930\u092d\u0941\u0928\u093e\u0925 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 \u091c\u0940, \u0915\u094d\u092f\u093e \u0906\u092a \u0905\u092a\u0928\u093e \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u092e\u0942\u0935 \u0915\u0930\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902?\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u092d\u0941\u0928\u093e\u0925 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 <\/a>(\u092e\u0939\u093e\u0930\u093e\u091c\u0917\u0902\u091c, \u092c\u093f\u0939\u093e\u0930<\/a>) : \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0915\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0938\u092e\u092f \u092d\u0940 \u0906\u0917\u094d\u0930\u0939 \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0925\u093e\u2026( \u0935\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0927\u093e\u0928) \u0906\u092a\u0915\u0947 \u092e\u0928 \u0915\u0947 \u0932\u093e\u092f\u0915 \u0915\u0939 \u0930\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0942\u0902, \u0915\u0943\u092a\u092f\u093e \u0938\u0941\u0928 \u0932\u0947\u0902\u0964\n<\/p>\n
\u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u0906\u092a \u092c\u094b\u0932 \u091a\u0941\u0915\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902\u0964 \u0905\u092c \u092f\u0939 \u092c\u0924\u093e\u090f\u0902 \u0915\u093f \u0915\u094d\u092f\u093e \u0906\u092a \u0905\u092a\u0928\u093e \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u0935\u093e\u092a\u0938 \u0932\u0947\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902 \u092f\u093e \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902?\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u092d\u0941\u0928\u093e\u0925 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 <\/a>: \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u0935\u093e\u092a\u0938 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0932\u0947\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0942\u0902\u0964 \u0939\u092e\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0938\u0941\u0928 \u0932\u0940\u091c\u093f\u090f, \u090f\u0915 \u092e\u093f\u0928\u091f \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0915\u0939 \u0926\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947\u0964\n<\/p>\n
\u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>: \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u0938\u0941\u0928\u093e\u0928\u0947 \u0915\u0947 \u092c\u093e\u0926 \u0915\u094d\u092f\u093e \u0906\u092a \u0905\u092a\u0928\u093e \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u0935\u093e\u092a\u0938 \u0932\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947? \u0915\u0939\u093f\u090f \u0915\u094d\u092f\u093e \u0938\u0941\u0928\u093e\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902?\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u092d\u0941\u0928\u093e\u0925 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 <\/a>: \u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f, \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u091a\u0930\u094d\u091a\u093e \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u092d\u093e\u0917 \u0932\u0947\u0924\u0947 \u0938\u092e\u092f \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u091c\u0940 \u0938\u0947 \u0906\u0917\u094d\u0930\u0939 \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0925\u093e \u0915\u093f \u0938\u0902\u0938\u0926 (\u0928\u093f\u0930\u0930\u094d\u0939\u0924\u093e \u0928\u093f\u0935\u093e\u0930\u0923) \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u0935\u093f\u0927\u0947\u092f\u0915, \u0968\u0966\u0966\u096c \u0915\u0940 \u0927\u093e\u0930\u093e \u0969 \u0915\u0947 \u0915\u094d\u0930\u092e\u093e\u0902\u0915 \u0968 \u0915\u0947 \u092a\u0936\u094d\u091a\u093e\u0924\u094d \u091c\u094b\u095c\u093e \u091c\u093e\u090f \u0915\u093f \u0910\u0938\u093e \u0915\u094b\u0908 \u092d\u0940 \u092a\u0926 \u091c\u093f\u0938\u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0915\u094b\u0908 \u0938\u0902\u0938\u0926 \u0938\u0926\u0938\u094d\u092f, \u091c\u0928 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0924\u0928\u0927\u093f, \u0905\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937, \u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u0938\u091a\u093f\u0935 \u0905\u0925\u0935\u093e \u0928\u093f\u0926\u0947\u0936\u0915 \u092e\u0902\u0921\u0932 \u0915\u0947 \u0930\u0942\u092a \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u092a\u0926 \u0927\u093e\u0930\u0923 \u0915\u0930\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0948 \u0914\u0930 \u0915\u094b\u0908 \u0935\u0947\u0924\u0928 \u092f\u093e \u092d\u0924\u094d\u0924\u093e \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0932\u0947\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0948, \u0932\u093e\u092d \u0915\u093e \u092a\u0926 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u092e\u093e\u0928\u093e \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0917\u093e \u0914\u0930 \u092f\u0939 \u096a \u0905\u092a\u094d\u0930\u0948\u0932, \u0967\u096f\u096b\u096f \u0938\u0947 \u0938\u094d\u0925\u093e\u092a\u093f\u0924 \u0938\u092e\u091d\u093e \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0917\u093e\u0964 \u0907\u0938\u092e\u0947\u0902 \u092e\u0902\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u091c\u0940 \u0938\u0947 \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u0906\u0917\u094d\u0930\u0939 \u0915\u0930\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0942\u0902\u0917\u093e \u0915\u093f \u0939\u092e\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u092c\u093e\u0924 \u092e\u093e\u0928 \u0932\u0947\u0902\u0964 \u0907\u0938\u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0909\u0928\u094d\u0939\u0947\u0902 \u0915\u094d\u092f\u093e \u0906\u092a\u0924\u094d\u0924\u093f \u0939\u0948?\n<\/p>\n
 \u0907\u0938\u0932\u093f\u090f \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0938\u094d\u0924\u093e\u0935 \u0915\u0930\u0924\u093e \u0939\u0942\u0902 <\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
 \u092a\u0943\u0937\u094d\u0920 \u096a, <\/p>\n
 \u092a\u0902\u0915\u094d\u0924\u093f \u0967\u096a \u0915\u0947  \u092a\u0936\u094d\u091a\u093e\u0924\u094d \u0928\u093f\u092e\u094d\u0928\u0932\u0916\u093f\u0924  \u0905\u0902\u0924<\/a>:\u0938\u094d\u0925\u093e\u092a\u093f\u0924 \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e \u091c\u093e\u090f,-\n<\/p>\n
 \u201c \u096a\u096c \u092c\u093f\u0939\u093e\u0930 \u0930\u093e\u091c\u094d\u092f \u0938\u0939\u0915\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u092d\u0942\u092e\u093f \u0935\u093f\u0915\u093e\u0938 \u092c\u0948\u0902\u0915, \u092a\u091f\u0928\u093e\u0964\n<\/p>\n
 \u096a\u096d \u092c\u093f\u0939\u093e\u0930 \u0930\u093e\u091c\u094d\u092f \u0938\u0939\u0915\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u0935\u093f\u092a\u0923\u0928 \u0938\u0902\u0918 \u092e\u0930\u094d\u092f\u093e\u0926\u093f\u0924 (\u092c\u093f\u0938\u094d\u0915\u094b\u092e\u093e\u0928) <\/p>\n
 \u092a\u091f\u0928\u093e\u0964\n<\/p>\n
 \u096a\u096e \u092c\u093f\u0939\u093e\u0930 \u0930\u093e\u091c\u094d\u092f \u0938\u0939\u0915\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u092c\u0948\u0902\u0915, \u092a\u091f\u0928\u093e\u0964\n<\/p>\n
 \u096a\u096f \u092c\u093f\u0939\u093e\u0930 \u0930\u093e\u091c\u094d\u092f \u0938\u0939\u0915\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u0938\u0902\u0918, \u092a\u091f\u0928\u093e\u0964 \u201d  (\u0967) <\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>:\u00a0 Sir, may I give an explanation for this point?\u00a0 He has given a very attractive preposition.\u00a0 But his suggestions cannot be accepted because the scheme of the law is, if you have to exempt each office, and you will have to amend the Constitution if you would like to give blanket exemptions. We cannot do that.\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>:\u00a0 I shall now put amendment No. 1 moved by Shri Prabhunath Singh to the vote of the House.\n<\/p>\n
The amendment was put and negatived.\n<\/p>\n
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SHRI PRABODH PANDA <\/a>(MIDNAPORE<\/a>): I beg to move:\n<\/p>\n
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\u201c46. The Midnapore Kharagpur Development Authority, a body constituted under the West Bengal Town and Country (Planning and Development) Act, 1979 (West Bengal Act No. 13 of 1979)\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (2) <\/p>\n
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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: I shall now put amendment No. 2 moved by Shri Prabodh Panda to the vote of the House.  The amendment was put and negatived <\/p>\n
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SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA <\/a>(BANKURA<\/a>):\u00a0 I beg to move:\n<\/p>\n
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\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 for \u201cPowerloom and Handloom\u201d <\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 substitute \u201cHandloom and Powerloom\u201d\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (4) <\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ<\/a>:\u00a0\u00a0 We accept this amendment.\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u092d\u0941\u0928\u093e\u0925 \u0938\u093f\u0902\u0939 <\/a>:\u00a0 \u0907\u0928\u0915\u093e \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u0924\u094b \u0938\u094d\u0935\u0940\u0915\u093e\u0930 \u0915\u0930 \u0932\u093f\u092f\u093e \u091c\u093e\u090f\u0917\u093e \u0914\u0930 \u0939\u092e\u093e\u0930\u093e \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0915\u0930\u0947\u0902\u0917\u0947\u0964\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>:\u00a0 I shall now put amendment No. 4 moved by Shri Basudeb Acharia to the vote of the House.\n<\/p>\n
The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
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\u00a0 for \u201cPowerloom and Handloom\u201d <\/p>\n
\u00a0 substitute \u201cHandloom and Powerloom\u201d\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (4) <\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
\u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u092e\u0939\u094b\u0926\u092f <\/a>:\u00a0 \u092e\u093e\u0928\u0928\u0940\u092f \u0930\u093e\u092e\u091c\u0940\u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0938\u0941\u092e\u0928 \u091c\u0940, \u0915\u094d\u092f\u093e \u0906\u092a \u0905\u092e\u0947\u0902\u0921\u092e\u0947\u0902\u091f \u092e\u0942\u0935 \u0915\u0930\u0928\u093e \u091a\u093e\u0939\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902?\n<\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0930\u093e\u092e\u091c\u0940\u0932\u093e\u0932 \u0938\u0941\u092e\u0928 <\/a>(\u095e\u093f\u0930\u094b\u095b\u093e\u092c\u093e\u0926<\/a>) : \u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940, \u091c\u094b \u0938\u0902\u0936\u094b\u0927\u0928 \u092e\u0948\u0902\u0928\u0947 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0938\u094d\u0924\u0941\u0924 \u0915\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0925\u093e \u0935\u0939 \u0938\u0930\u0915\u093e\u0930 \u0928\u0947 \u092a\u0939\u0932\u0947 \u0939\u0940 \u092e\u093e\u0928 \u0932\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 “That clause 3, as amended, stand part of the Bill.”\n<\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0 <\/p>\n
Clause 3, as amended, was added to the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0 <\/p>\n
SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY <\/a>(PURI<\/a>): Sir, I am on a point of order. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: What is your point of order? Under what rule?\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY <\/a>: Sir, my point of order arises from the provisions of rule 371.\u00a0 At the time of introduction of the Bill also I raised this matter.\u00a0 I do not have any intention to offend any hon. Member.\u00a0 But this is a question of law.\u00a0 Rule 371 says that if any hon. Member derives any pecuniary benefit out of the Bill or the law, he should not participate in the proceedings and he cannot participate in voting.\u00a0 How are the hon. Members who are getting benefit out of this legislation sitting here?\u00a0 This is a question of law. \u2026 (Interruptions) Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, you should ask them to leave this House.\u00a0 I want a clear ruling from you.\u00a0 I am just reading it out.\u00a0 \u2026 (Interruptions) Please listen to me. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: This rule does not apply here.\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY : Article 371 says<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u201cIf the vote of a Member in a division in the House is challenged on the ground of personal, pecuniary or direct interest in the matter to be decided, the Speaker may, if he considers necessary, call upon the Member making the challenge to state precisely the grounds of his objection and the Member whose vote has been challenged to state his case and shall decide whether the vote of the Member should be disallowed or not and his decision shall be final. \u201d <\/p>\n
\u00a0 <\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: It is applicable only when division is there.\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY <\/a>: Now, I am challenging their vote.\u00a0 How can the Members who are getting benefit out of this Bill participate in the voting and division? That is my point and I request you to give a ruling. \u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER<\/a>: This is no point of order and this is not applicable.\n<\/p>\n
\u2026 (Interruptions)\n<\/p>\n
SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY <\/a>: We cannot be party to their decision to participate in the House. So, we are just leaving the House.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0 <\/p>\n
 17.23 hrs.  <\/p>\n
(At this stage, Shri Braja Kishore Tripathy and some other <\/p>\n
hon. Members left the House.) <\/p>\n
\u0936\u094d\u0930\u0940 \u0905\u0928\u0902\u0924 \u0917\u0902\u0917\u093e\u0930\u093e\u092e \u0917\u0940\u0924\u0947 <\/a>: \u0909\u092a\u093e\u0927\u094d\u092f\u0915\u094d\u0937 \u091c\u0940, \u092f\u0939 \u0938\u0926\u0928 \u0915\u0940 \u0935\u093f\u0936\u094d\u0935\u0938\u0928\u0940\u092f\u0924\u093e \u0915\u0947 \u0938\u093e\u0925 \u0927\u094b\u0916\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 “That clause 4 stand part of the Bill”.\n<\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0 <\/p>\n
Clause 4 was added to the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0 <\/p>\n
Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the Long Title were added to the Bill.\n<\/p>\n
SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ:\u00a0 Sir, I beg to move<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 “That the Bill, as amended, be passed.”\n<\/p>\n
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is<\/a>:\n<\/p>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 “That the Bill, as amended, be passed.”\n<\/p>\n
The motion was adopted.\n<\/p>\n
—————\n<\/p>\n
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