{"id":32400,"date":"2009-08-13T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-08-12T18:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.legalindia.com\/judgments\/shri-harender-singh-vs-dept-of-personnel-training-on-13-august-2009"},"modified":"2017-04-25T05:03:12","modified_gmt":"2017-04-24T23:33:12","slug":"shri-harender-singh-vs-dept-of-personnel-training-on-13-august-2009","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.legalindia.com\/judgments\/shri-harender-singh-vs-dept-of-personnel-training-on-13-august-2009","title":{"rendered":"Shri Harender Singh vs Dep\u2019T Of Personnel &amp; Training &#8230; on 13 August, 2009"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"docsource_main\">Central Information Commission<\/div>\n<div class=\"doc_title\">Shri Harender Singh vs Dep\u2019T Of Personnel &amp; Training &#8230; on 13 August, 2009<\/div>\n<pre>                                                        To be issued in Hindi\n               CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION\n                 Appeal No. CIC\/WB\/A\/2008\/00569 dated 4-3-2008\n                   Right to Information Act 2005 - Section 19\n\nAppellant:          Shri Harender Singh,\nRespondent:         Dep't of Personnel &amp; Training, (DOPT)\n\n\n                          Decision Announced 13.8.'09\n\n\nFACTS<\/pre>\n<p>       By an application of 26-12-07 Shri Harender Singh of Uttam Nagar,<br \/>\nNew Delhi applied to the CPIO, Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievance &amp;<br \/>\nPension seeking information on the following two points:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>        &#8220;As per letter of DOPT F.No.42011\/14\/2005-Estt. (Res.) dated<br \/>\n       21-2-2006 when it came to the notice of DOPT that OBC is<br \/>\n       included in Central List and     Delhi List as far as Delhi<br \/>\n       Police is concerned. Please provide me the   photocopy of the<br \/>\n       same.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       When DOPT came to know and thru which letter that Delhi<br \/>\n       Police is under Home Ministry?. Please provide me the<br \/>\n       photocopy of the same.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       Please send reply in Hindi only.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>       To this he received the following response dated 23-1-08 in Hindi as<br \/>\ndesired :\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>       &#8220;In reference to para 1 it is stated that Jaat Samaj, Nazafgarh<br \/>\n       vide letter No. JSN\/2000-2001\/OBCCL-49 has informed that<br \/>\n       except the posts of Dy. Inspector (executive) on all other posts<br \/>\n       the OBCs are included in central lists    of all States and Dy.<br \/>\n       Director (Executive) are included in the list of NCT Delhi. If you<br \/>\n       want to have a copy of such lists you are requested to deposit<br \/>\n       Rs. 24\/- @ Rs. 2\/- per page by case of IPO or Banker cheque in<br \/>\n       the name of AO,     DOPT. Thereafter a copy of the same will<br \/>\n       be supplied to you with enclosures. It is expected from the<br \/>\n       Ministries\/Departments of GOI to act in accordance with the<br \/>\n       Allocation of Business Rules 1961 issued by Cabinet Secretariat.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>       Not satisfied with this response Shri Harender Singh moved and<br \/>\nappeal before the Appellate Authority, Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievance<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                          1<\/span><br \/>\n &amp; Pensions on 1-2-2008 in which the substance of his appeal was that the<br \/>\ninformation supplied was not what he had asked for. Upon this Shri K.G.<br \/>\nVerma, Director, Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievance &amp; Pension in his<br \/>\norder of 25-2-08 has found as follows:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>       &#8220;Shri Kashyap informed Shri Harender Singh that if he wanted<br \/>\n       the copy sought in his application Para 1, he could be provided<br \/>\n       the same if he had deposited Rs. 24\/-..\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       Appellant is further informed that in accordance with the<br \/>\n       Allocation of Business Rules 1961 issued by Cabinet Secretariat<br \/>\n       Delhi Police comes under MHA. For knowing this information<br \/>\n       there is no need of any letter neither any such letter is with the<br \/>\n       Department. If appellant wants further information he can see<br \/>\n       the website of cabinet secretariat https:\/\/cabsec.gov.in.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>       Shri Harender Singh has then moved his second appeal before us with<br \/>\nthe following prayer:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>       &#8220;It is requested that the correct information be provided to<br \/>\n       me sought by me in my letter of 26-12-07 and Training<br \/>\n       Division of DOPT be penalised for not providing correct<br \/>\n       information.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>       In grounds for appeal Shri Harender Singh has submitted that the<br \/>\ninformation provided to him has been knowingly provided incorrect.\n<\/p>\n<p>       The appeal was heard on 13-8-2009. The following are present:<br \/>\n       Appellant<br \/>\n       Shri Harender Singh<\/p>\n<p>       Respondents<br \/>\n       Shri G.S. Pundir, Under Secretary, DoPT<br \/>\n       Shri Sunil Kumar Adlakha, S.O.\n<\/p>\n<p>       Appellant Shri Harender Singh submitted that in his initial response to<br \/>\nhis request CPIO Shri Kashyap has sought to mislead him by indicating that<br \/>\nthey have learnt that Delhi Police shared the Central List of OBC from the<br \/>\nletter of Jaat Samaj. However, he submitted a copy of a letter from Shri I.B.<br \/>\nKaran, Director, Delhi of the MHA of 18-8-04 in which Shri Karan has<br \/>\ninformed him as follows:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>       &#8220;The matter regarding reservation for appointment of OBCs to<br \/>\n       Group &#8216;C&#8217; and Group &#8216;D&#8217; posts in Delhi police has been<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                         2<\/span><br \/>\n            examined in this Ministry in consultation with DOP&amp;T1 Delhi<br \/>\n           Police and the Govt. of NCT of Delhi and it has been decided<br \/>\n           that the Central List of OBCs for all States and Union Territories,<br \/>\n           notified by the ministry of Social Justice &amp; Empowerment, as<br \/>\n           also the Delhi List of OBCs, notified by the Govt. of NCT of<br \/>\n           Delhi shall be followed for reservation for appointment of OBCs<br \/>\n           to Group &#8216;C&#8217; and Group &#8216;D&#8217; posts in Delhi Police.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>           In other words, Shri Harender Singh submitted that this decision has<br \/>\nbeen arrived at by MHA in consultation with the DOPT regarding which DoPT<br \/>\nhas therefore misled him by informing him that they have come to know of this<br \/>\nonly through the letter of 21-2-2005. That letter is an OM in which Shri K.G.<br \/>\nVerma, Dy. Secretary, GOI has recorded as follows:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>            &#8220;According to the instruction issued by this Department benefit<br \/>\n           of reservation in the matter of recruitment to services under the<br \/>\n           Government of India is available to communities contained in<br \/>\n           the Central list of OBCs notified by the Central Ministry of Social<br \/>\n           Justice and Empowerment only.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>           Ministry of Home Affairs have informed that services of Delhi<br \/>\n           Police fall under the Central Government. In such a case,<br \/>\n           reservation to OBCs in the matter of recruitment to the Delhi<br \/>\n           Police should be provided on the basis of Central list of OBCs&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>           Shri G.S. Pundhir, Under Secretary, DOPT, on the other hand<br \/>\nsubmitted that what Shri Harender Singh has asked in his original application<br \/>\nwas a specific question on the basis of the order of 21-2-06. It is for this<br \/>\nreason that the Department has not dealt with the issue of the decision to<br \/>\nbring Delhi Police under the Central List but only the basis of the issuing of<br \/>\nthat particular OM. Appellant Shri Harender Singh went on to argue that since<br \/>\nRule of 1961 was known to the DOPT, which has been conveyed to Shri<br \/>\nHarender Singh by Appellate Authority Shri K.G. Verma, what was the reason<br \/>\nfor the DOPT having to wait for a representation of Jaat Samaj, Najafgarh of<br \/>\n24-1-2005 to issue the OM of 21-2-2005. Shri Harender Singh also invited<br \/>\nour attention to the noting on file received on file No. 14011\/12\/03-UTP<br \/>\nreceived from the Ministry of Home Affairs on page 13 of which the following<br \/>\nis recorded: on pages 13&amp;14:\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>                                        Estt (Res) Section<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">1<\/span><br \/>\n    Emphasised by us in reference to appellant&#8217;s argument<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                                    3<\/span><br \/>\n        Ref: notes above and notes on pp 11-12\/n ante may kindly be<br \/>\n       seen and perused.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       2. MHA have proposed to apply Central list of OBCs and<br \/>\n          Delhi&#8217;s List of OBCs for recruitment in the subordinate ranks<br \/>\n          of Delhi Police and sought concurrence of the DOPT in this<br \/>\n          respect.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>       3. In this connection it may be submitted that if Delhi Police<br \/>\n          forms a part of Central Govt then only Central List of OBCs<br \/>\n          issued by MOSJE should apply. If Delhi Police is a Deptt.<br \/>\n          Under the framework of GNCT Delhi then view should be<br \/>\n          taken by MHA in consultation with GNCT of Delhi whether<br \/>\n          Delhi&#8217;s List would apply.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>              This note is signed by Shri AK Kashyap on 29.7.&#8217;04<\/p>\n<p>                            DECISION NOTICE:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>       Having examined the records and heard the parties we find the request<br \/>\nfor information of Shri Harender Singh on 26-12-07 has specifically referred to<br \/>\nthe OM of 21-2-2006 and asks when the fact came to their notice that this is<br \/>\nso. This question could be interpreted to mean, as appellant Shri Harender<br \/>\nSingh has interpreted it to mean i.e. the question as to when the DoPT first<br \/>\ncame to know that Delhi Police comes under the Central List of OBC, or it<br \/>\ncould be interpreted to mean as CPIO has interpreted as the basis of issuing<br \/>\nOM of 21-2-2006.     By assuming the latter CPIO Shri A.K. Kashyap and<br \/>\nAppellate Authority Shri K.G. Verma cannot be deemed to have been in<br \/>\nviolation of the law nor can they be accused of non-application of mind.<br \/>\nNevertheless the record shown to us it is clear that the information sought by<br \/>\nappellant Shri Harender Singh has been received by him. There remains no<br \/>\nfurther information to be provided and the appeal is dismissed.\n<\/p>\n<p>       Announced in the hearing. Notice of this decision be given free of cost<br \/>\nto the parties.\n<\/p>\n<p>(Wajahat Habibullah)<br \/>\nChief Information Commissioner<br \/>\n13-8-2009<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                      4<\/span><br \/>\n Authenticated true copy. Additional copies of orders shall be supplied against<br \/>\napplication and payment of the charges prescribed under the Act to the CPIO<br \/>\nof this Commission.\n<\/p>\n<p>(Pankaj K.P. Shreyaskar)<br \/>\nJoint Registrar<br \/>\n13-8-2009<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"hidden_text\">                                      5<\/span>\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Central Information Commission Shri Harender Singh vs Dep\u2019T Of Personnel &amp; Training &#8230; on 13 August, 2009 To be issued in Hindi CENTRAL INFORMATION COMMISSION Appeal No. CIC\/WB\/A\/2008\/00569 dated 4-3-2008 Right to Information Act 2005 &#8211; Section 19 Appellant: Shri Harender Singh, Respondent: Dep&#8217;t of Personnel &amp; Training, (DOPT) Decision Announced 13.8.&#8217;09 FACTS By an [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[39,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32400","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-central-information-commission","category-judgements"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Shri Harender Singh vs Dep\u2019T Of Personnel &amp; 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