The Lok Sabha re-assembled at one minute past Fourteen of the Clock.
(Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair)
डा. रघुवंश प्रसाद सिंह (वैशाली) : उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, हमने एडजर्नमैंट मोशन दिया है। …( व्यवधान) उस पर अभी तक फैसला नहीं हुआ है। …( व्यवधान)
श्री राम प्रसाद सिंह (आरा) : उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, बिहार में जिस तरह से राज्य सरकार बनी है
…( व्यवधान) वहां संविधान का उल्लंघन किया गया है। …( व्यवधान) भारत सरकार के इशारे पर
…( व्यवधान)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Today is the International Women’s Day. There is a tradition to refer this matter in the House. It has been done in the Upper House also. One or two Members from both the sides can speak. Let me call Shrimati Margaret Alva to speak on it.
डा. रघुवंश प्रसाद सिंह (वैशाली) : इसीलिये हमने बिहार में महिला को मुख्यमंत्री बनाने का फैसला किया है। …( व्यवधान)
उपाध्यक्ष महोदय : महिला दिवस पर आप उनको बात नहीं करने दे रहे हैं।
…( व्यवधान)
SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI (RAIGANJ): Shrimati Rabri Devi, who was entitled to be summoned by the Governor to Raj Bhavan, was never called… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It is the International Women’s Day and you are not allowing a lady Member even to speak.
… (Interruptions)
SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DASMUNSI (RAIGANJ): Sir, my heart goes to Bihar where a lady has been deprived of her right.… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please allow her to speak.
श्री खेलसाय सिंह (सरगुजा) : उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, बिहार में जो अन्याय हुआ है। …( व्यवधान)
उपाध्यक्ष महोदय : आज इंटरनैशनल महिला दिवस है।
…( व्यवधान)
SHRI VAIKO (SIVAKASI): Sir, Shri Dasmunsi has instigated the Members to create hulla gulla in the House!… (Interruptions)
सरदार बूटा सिंह (जालौर) : उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, महिला को मुख्यमंत्री नहीं बनने दिया गया। …( व्यवधान)
उपाध्यक्ष महोदय : यहां पर भी आप महिला को अपनी बात रखने का मौका नहीं दे रहे हैं।
…( व्यवधान)
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : But still you must know our views also on it … (Interruptions) It is because we are so charged on this particular matter, you cannot road-roll the introduction of the Bills in this way … (Interruptions) How can you do this? … (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Scindia, you are a senior Member and you know the procedure about what you should do if you want to raise objection at the time of introduction of Bills.
… (Interruptions)
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : Sir, there is an Adjournment Motion pending… (Interruptions) We still have not received the decision about that … (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The issue of Adjournment Motion is already cleared.
… (Interruptions)
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : Sir, no. Our colleagues have tabled
an Adjournment Motion this morning and the hon. Speaker has not given his ruling on that … (Interruptions) and yet you are lecturing us here on… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The hon. Speaker has already disallowed that. That is what I have been told. I was not here in the morning.
… (Interruptions)
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : Sir, Bills cannot be introduced because the Adjournment Motion is still pending and you have totally ignored that … (Interruptions) and you are lecturing on introduction of Bills … (Interruptions)
I am very sorry to say this … (Interruptions) Introduction of Bills is not correct … (Interruptions)
You cannot get the Bills introduced in this fashion… (Interruptions) Introduction stage of a Bill is also an important stage. You cannot road-roll on this … (Interruptions) There is an Adjournment Motion pending … (Interruptions) our colleagues have tabled it and the hon. Speaker has not given his ruling on that… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: In the morning when the issue of the Adjournment Motion was raised, it was disallowed by the hon. Speaker.
… (Interruptions)
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : Sir, in spite of your allowing the laying of papers, we did not say anything … (Interruptions) But how can you introduce the Bills … (Interruptions) These are important Bills … (Interruptions) Introduction stage of a Bill is an important stage … (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: In case you want to raise objections at the stage of introduction of Bills, then you know the procedure.
… (Interruptions)
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : You must tell us about the Adjournment Motion of our colleague … (Interruptions) It is most vital … (Interruptions)
SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): Sir, we asked for a division … (Interruptions) You were not prepared to listen… (Interruptions)
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Sir, we had asked for a division… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Will you please hear me?
… (Interruptions)
श्री माधवराव सिंधिया : उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, हमारे साथी ने स्थगन प्रस्ताव पेश किया है।… (व्यवधान)क्या आप अपना निर्णय हमें बताएंगे ? … (व्यवधान)
… (Interruptions)
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : We demand division on this.
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please go back to your seats.
श्री माधवराव सिंधिया (गुना): हमने अभी तक कुछ नहीं कहा है। आपने जो इंट्रोडक्शन ऑफ बिल शुरू किया है, यह गलत बात है, यह ठीक नहीं है क्योंकि बिल का इंट्रोडक्शन महत्वपूर्ण चरण होता है। ….( व्यवधान)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Allow me to take the consent of the House for introduction.
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : I am on a point of order.
SHRI RAJESH PILOT (DAUSA): This is a very important Bill. It cannot be bulldozed like this.
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am not bulldozing anybody.
SHRI RAJESH PILOT (DAUSA): The idea is not that. The idea is that there is some resentment among the Members of this side. They are trying to express it in a democratic way.
श्री विजय गोयल (चांदनी चौक) : “वी आर कोओपरेटिंग” का मतलब यह नहीं होता है जो आप दस दिन से संसद नहीं चलने दे रहे हैं। …( व्यवधान)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I am no one to bulldoze anybody here. I am going according to Rules. I am not bulldozing anybody. I am no one to do it. You are not even ready to hear what I am trying to say.
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(At this stage, Shri Sukdeo Paswan and some other hon. Members
went back to their seats.)
SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (BANKURA): Sir, I am on a point of order.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: What I have done is, I have allowed the Minister to introduce a Bill. If the Bill to be introduced was to be opposed at the initial stage, you could have given notice. You said that I have bulldozed. I am not here to bulldoze anybody.
THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI RAM NAIK): Sir, the hon. Members are using the words ‘roadrolling’ and ‘bulldozing’. गलत बात कर रहे हैं। मैं नही मानता हूं कि इस प्रकार के शब्द इस्तेमाल करने चाहिए। Usage of these words for the Chair is very wrong. Please delete those words from the record.
श्री राजेश पायलट (दौसा) : उपाध्यक्ष जी, सुबह से आप देख ही रहे हैं कि बिहार के बारे में यहां पर सदस्यों की भावना क्या है? माननीय प्रधान मंत्री जी यहां पर नहीं है। यू.पी. में गवर्नर ने डिसीजन दिया था तो प्रधान मंत्री जी एक दिन भूख-हड़ताल पर चले गये थे सारे देश को बताने के लिए कि यू.पी. में डेमोक्रेसी खत्म कर दी गयी है ….( व्यवधान) प्रधान मंत्री जी बैठे हुए थे हमने उसी भावना से …( व्यवधान) हाउस इस बात पर एडजर्न हो गया था।
SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE (BOLPUR): When Shri Vajpayee went on a hunger strike then, the House could not function. What happened to them now? What did they do now?
श्री मदन लाल खुराना : उपाध्यक्ष जी, क्या आप बिहार के बारे में सदस्यों को अलाऊ कर रहे हैं? दस दिन से हाउस नहीं चल रहा है, ….( व्यवधान) आप कैसे अलाऊ कर रहे हैं।
SHRI ANIL BASU (ARAMBAGH): Sir, notice for Adjournment Motion is before the House. According to the Rules of Procedure of the House, before taking up the legislative business of the House, Adjournment Motion has to be disposed of.
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI TAPAN SIKDAR): Sir, let us introduce the Bill first.
श्री विजय गोयल : उपाध्यक्ष जी, हमारे भी बहुत महत्वपूर्ण प्रश्न हैं जिनपर हमें बोलना है।
श्री राजेश पायलट : सुबह हमारे साथियों ने एडजर्नमेंट मोशन का सवाल उठाया था बिहार के गवर्नर ने जो भी आदेश दिया ….( व्यवधान)
श्री श्रीप्रकाश जायसवाल (कानपुर) : आपने पायलट जी को बोलने की अनुमति दी है।
SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY (CHHAPRA): Sir, you have been kind to hear whatever they said. For the simple reason that you have been very generous, for the simple reason that you have been very kind, they are going on accusing you. This is a heavy price for kindness.… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Rudy, I am on my legs.
… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Hon. Members please go to your seats. Let me hear Shri Rajesh Pilot.
… (Interruptions)
श्री राजेश पायलट : उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, आज सुबह जब एडरेनमेंट मोशन के बारे में बात चल रही थी, हम इन लोगों की बात सुनते रहे। उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, यह बात उन लोगों की नज़र में हो सकती है… ( व्यवधान)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Vijay Goel, let me hear Shri Rajesh Pilot.
श्री विजय गोयल :. उपाध्यक्ष महोदय, श्री सिन्धिया जी ने इंट्रोडक्शन बिल के समय दूसरा ईश्यू उठाया था और आपने उसका जवाब भी दे दिया था। अब आगे का एजेंडा लीजिये।… (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have said that there are some Bills to be introduced.
… (Interruptions)
SHRI RAJESH PILOT(DAUSA): We had submitted our point before the Chair.
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(At this stage, Shri Anwarul Mohammad Haque and some other
hon. Members came and stood on the floor near the Table.)
MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again tomorrow, 9th March, 2000 at 11.00 hours.
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The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock
on Thursday, 9th March, 2000/Phalguna 19, 1921(Saka).